Getting tired yet or what you slow down ever, no, that you know when you, when you get to slow down in perpetuity. Oh, i was just making sense. You know the fact that one day we will all die and then you're just sleeping forever makes me kind of think like it. Let me just squeeze this at bat yeah, but also doesn't it make you sometimes think like it? I'm not gon na.

Do all this. This is like this is where all the garyvee content comes from. That's how i felt in school. That's how i would feel if you told me to make my bed right right in your bed right.

You know the most inefficient thing of all time ever well, i see i'm. I go back and forth with it because you get brainwashed by big bed. Who's like make you better you'll be surprised. Well, it is.

It is undeniably more comfortable yeah, that's true, but you know how to fix that air conditioning yeah it's cold. It's that's true, feels good yeah. So, no, but like honestly on some real, i love being an entrepreneur. I love being an operator.

I love doing my thing. Yeah and if i go into any second of because i'm a human being of like this blows a i don't try to like rah-rah myself, it's okay to have a bad day, mm-hmm, it's okay to have like, especially when it's raining rain like i don't know how Those seattle dudes do everything yeah. That is some depressing year round, is like some weird like where where's like home home. For you right now, new york, new york, you stay here right here uh but like rain gets me like rain's, like my kryptonite, a little bit like it's really rainy and like i like, and i'm a little tired.

It's done! Oh no, but like i really fight that first hour anyway. Nonetheless, i was only there in college, the second it was like and like when i was in college i was working out. I was like well i'm not going to class. I was working out and the second there was rain.

It was like dude we're not going to go all right. It's it just becomes tv watching day. Could you ever do like la west coast somewhere, where it's nice all the time? Like you know, you know it's funny at 46 now i'd be lying, if i didn't say the last five years that i've gone to miami in la when i would wake up like if i have to give a keynote, if i'm having a meeting, if i flew In the night before, when i wake up and like kind of open the hotel, you know right and that sunshine hits my chest like a beam i'd be lying. If i didn't say oh, this is how people get i get it yeah to live here right.

You know like i definitely but also those places i feel like don't match you like. No, they don't matter. Listen, i'm pretty funny. I'm high energy.

I go hard on the field but like when i'm off the field like using a sports analogy, i i love. Relaxing yeah, i'm what i am is all in or all out right right. My ideal vacation is 10 days on the beach. Do nothing right! Okay! Are you resort, though, on a beach, obviously yeah? I can't do it.

You got to feel the culture. Oh shut. The up bro, i don't want to go. I don't want to go to the caribbean to hang out with some dude from new hampshire.

Like that's, not fun, i want to meet people who are from there. You want to now meet people yeah people, no, not not like not like i don't want to. I don't want to necessarily have like a one-on-one conversation. Like tell me your story, man around, that i want to be around like, like, i feel like i'm like.

Okay, i'm experiencing something i actually do get that. That makes sense. Yeah i mean i do i like both don't get me crazy, i'm not trying to just like stay in there in like the middle of nowhere, but i like to like, like every time, i'm at a resort, if i'm sitting at a resort bar i'm like i Hate all of you yeah because, like we just all move, it's all yeah you're you're, all me and i hate you all in that scenario. Do you hate yourself, yeah yeah come on.

We've you've won for the first time my life took a step back. Oh, i didn't i, i decided to go the other way you went all in. I feel i could feel all the homies taking a step back because i get it yeah, because even my body was like it's time to take a step back and i said no step back monster yeah, i'm gon na double down yeah, you always so i'm like, But i think you made the right move and maybe i'm just drinking the cooling again, but i feel like there's actually something brewing and now i'm almost mad at myself for taking this exactly there's something broke, but i actually i felt brother i felt great. I was like i was a different person, a hundred percent not having this like dread every day.

Do you know why i even understand why people get mad at each other over politics is sports? Yes, yeah. It's the same. It's just like rooney for the team. I am so upset that the world has become so blue and red, and all i'm trying to do is be like it's purple every one of you are purple like, of course, you believe in like and like.

We need that because we're just going right, yeah and then in sports, i'm like well now now i understand yeah exactly and i'm really, but that's no, that's what's scary about politics is that it's becoming, maybe it always has been, but we're just realizing it. But it's becoming more like sports, which is the most irrational thing that we do scream and yell at each other yeah i mean the level of hate i have for poor mac jones for no reason nice guy great dude. He was like die in a fire bro. At least brady was like fiery and like whatever it was easier like this.

Poor doof is just walking around smiling one of the nicest things that new england has ever done for the new york franchise is hiring not hiring. Mack jones drafting mac jones, because when those when those pictures of him has like a model came out like that's, perfect fodder him on the runway, doing like the things like that, he's probably had that too brilliant early on yeah brady had that where he was at Carnevale with gisele and griffin, yeah yeah yeah yeah. No, i think i think that um, i think that i went all in and, as you know, this is the best if you're smart. If you're like a good football fan, you understand things.

This is the best a jets fan could feel in a very long time. You don't know the full answer at quarterback right you'd be lying. If you did, though his last five games were totally different than the beginning of the season, but what what you do know already, if you're a real football fan is elijah elijah moore can play football. Michael carter can play football elijah vera tucker can play football right.

Even like the brandon uh michael carter, the two at from duke can play foot like and what what really resonates for me is the joe sala combo and drafting like i am. I can't even tell you joe, had a big draft and joe, i feel like he needed it, because the tie was about to turn and that draft is it's been huge for him and they have top five money. They have four picks in the top 38. and we've had that before, but i i never trusted the people in place to spend that money.

I think mike mccagnin is the worst gm in nfl history. I don't know it was pretty bad brother. This is where jeff fans get confused by branding the izzyk thing feels bigger yeah, but mccartney was way worse yeah. It's walked into mike t's and i love mike t yeah, but he walked into a mess yeah.

He had to clean it up right. He blew his draft pick. Those 12 picks. He blew it, which us comma mike had five years right, mike mike passed on patrick mahomes, when we needed a quarterback and took jamal adams yeah, like nobody taught, we didn't, have a quarterback josh mcallen, like i don't understand what people are josh mccown was the quarterback Of the jets he was the income he was on the board, it was actually ryan, it was ryan fitzpatrick, it's patrick and mcgowan.

It's just insane what the jets did under mike. He completely decimated the franchise. You know. Sam darnold is one of my favorite human beings, but if he doesn't go and turn around quick here, the jets traded, multiple low round picks to get sam right like he decimated the franchise he gave a ton.

So i feel like you, you, you stay pretty positive. Even though, like i know, you know that stuff right like i i stay realistic, i like i, i'm pr listen. I might be positive publicly if you were hanging out in my apartment when the jets play i'm a disaster. That's a good question at one point uh.

I think i know the answer already but, like you you're a businessman entrepreneur and all that, but now you're also just kind of like a influencer star. You know what i mean. It's almost like uh, more people know who i am right, but you know i'm saying like um like when jim cramer became like jim cramer, the tv guy and no longer financially. I say like: where are you just like i'm trying to put out content versus i'm trying to make business? That's a really interesting question.

I don't even think in those terms right, i am just navigating i it all kind of like i kind of have this big framework of like my ambitions and my selfless agenda, meaning i want to buy the new york jets. I'm a businessman i'm trying to do like i'm deep web 3 because i think it's the future, like i'm putting in the time, because that's an opportunity, i run a humongous company with 1800 employees like i like i'm trying to build an empire comma. I have a personality trait that is unusual for an empire building assassin i, which is i'm not tearing down everybody around me, i'm not a sharp elbows, i'm a nice guy's actually finish. First dude and at some point i realized enough.

People were watching me that i'm like it. Let me like really teach people that this is possible, that you can be very successful and happy and you don't have to be a dick face, and so and so what ended up happening was a lot of things happen. Uh trash talk, my garage sale videos. What is that that is hundreds of people, thousands of people, tens of thousands of people emailing me over a period of time, saying gary.

You keep talking about investing in startups, but i don't have twenty five thousand dollars. In fact, i'm six thousand in debt - and i have ninety three dollars in my bank - account. What do i do, and you know you're getting this constantly and at some point, you're sitting on a plane and saying i got ta, do something and i was like all right - i'm going to show them what i did when i had 93 dollars. My garage, saled and sold stuff on ebay right and anything your mouth is yeah and so like so like, so the whole like, like everything i do publicly, has been really counter-punching a lot of the energy that i've been feeling it is.

I mean that is a uh. I feel like one of your biggest criticisms is almost like you're not going to make it dude like why? Why are you telling these people it's like? I show you how to actually get there yeah like a tangible way. Yeah just be like, follow your dreams like go to a garage sale to make some yeah like like people that, to your point, people that on social media are like. Okay, like razz me and you're, like okay, i'm like cool but like you've, decided to look at that video.

Did you watch the videos that i put out for an entire 18 months detailing that tick? Tock was the next big arbitrage and if you do this, and if you do that, like like i'm very happy that you've selected to clip a couple things to fit your agenda right right, i mean everybody. Nobody actually watches anybody's full episode or or catalog or either by the way it's why i'm also empathetic to people that think i suck or you gary i'm like. No, that's what they say right cause i'm like i get it. We always like when people like uh, you know, do your research, it's like.

No people don't do their research, they look at the headline, they look at the video and they make the decision. I completely understand why people hate barcelona yeah. I guess yeah, you looked up. You've seen what he do, yeah absolutely so so i'm very empathetic to that.

I don't take it personally, it's easier if it was like when it's the company, when you're the human, as you guys know, sometimes it's bar stool. Sometimes it's you yeah. When it's you, you know, for me the big key is not listening in either direction, meaning when i talk about like putting your fingers in your ears and like that, go into your own cocoon and do it for yourself. It really really works against hate, but i'm not saying it for hate, i'm not saying for the haters, i'm actually saying it for the people that tell you you're the goat, good yeah, because there's a lot of that too.

I get way more of that yeah and i heard you uh described as a joe rogan for nerds. I think that's awesome i mean like i i look. I think that i get way more love. I know because i have the data uh, but i don't hear that either yeah well, that that can almost be more dangerous.

I feel like sometimes well. This is my leader when you get high in your own supply, you're finished, but there's got to be that in between that. Actually one of my biggest regrets of my career is yeah. One of my biggest regrets, especially because we do comedy, is i'm i'm always a little.

I'm way more self-deprecating than i am, i'm never one to be like we did it or whatever you know, and i kind of wish. I was a little bit more over the last like 15 years because i think people started to kind of you know. Yeah reciprocate that vibe right and wait a minute. I can say it not you off.

You know a hundred percent. Here's some good news. How old are you 36? That's almost 37.. This is perfect.

When i was 34 years old, i worked in a liquor store yeah like yes, i keep trying to remind people like. Oh you know, people love like listen one of the fun things like my favorite thing. Right now is these five or six comedians that fully impersonate me is so funny yeah and they look like you're. Very you got to laugh.

I got a lot of things to do. Yes, yeah yeah, the one guy when he added the, but i bite my name. These are so good, it's like it's like saying a child like they know exactly exactly how to get and and for me it's like truly like this is where i'm lucky, like i'm flattered yeah like when they're like making fun i'm flattered. But what you know.

One of the their favorite sticks like the cliche go-to. If you're gon na impersonate me as 80 year old person comes up to me and i'm like how old are you 80.? You got tired and it's funny i get it. It makes me laugh, you know. What's bananas, though, i believe it's so much, you couldn't imagine it yeah.

If you really understood when i, you said 36 to me, what my brain did it's so uncomfortably early yeah like we're going to die. It is, we were talking about this recently, like some of those with someone we're just like we're just talking about smells like how, like it's so weird that, like you'll, never experience what it's like for me like just like you, wouldn't even know what that smells like To me like how oh it's me, my mom cause my mom's like a really like sensitive nose and i'm like you walking like i don't smell anything like walking around she's like you, don't know how horrible it is when i walk in the room, yeah and and Like you don't know, what's like in my head right here that i'm 33, i'm like that's over dude, like i don't know, i guess i'll ride this out until i die and that's it dude. I got nothing on some real, we're, obviously having fun with this. If, if people understood how much that thing is the thing like how that up, people like people generally, it's too late depressed in their 30s and 40s, which is insane and they're not going to listen to their 60 year old parent? Like you, don't listen to your parent ever and so for me, it's, like you know, it's just something i believe in.

I wish people understood it. It goes down to accountability. It goes into like realizing. You can shift on a dime.

It's like it's very real. I try to use like the rock and like marky mark and like the fresh prince, i try to use like these people that are fully converted. Like all three people i just mentioned, we in america were like. Oh, that's marky, mark yeah, like he's, got abs and underwear and he's cool like his rapper like, but then he's a mark.

Wahlberg like the real powerhouse. Like you know, dwayne like like. I wish people just knew like evolved back. Third act.

10. You really. Can you really can like, if you really and when you said that, like i felt it to be frank like i'm empathetic to like hey, i can say it, but don't you say it especially because i've worked my face off for 15 years and like it's really Fun ricky in ohio, 19 years old, you're saying that well like we also we do a lot of like you know, we're lucky to be here and just around on the mics. This isn't a hard job, blah blah blah but like it is, you know i mean like we put a lot into it, but then, which is why people are just going off of us, which is why you could do a little bit of what like, if you Want - and this will help people if you want, you - can use a different social platform to educate a little bit.

For example, one of the most remarkable things you two could do is actually put out occasional content of like what you've learned of how to be better. At doing this, like there's a lot of kids 15 that want to be you with all their heart and like one video of like hey, i sucked at this, and i got better at this, and this is why that just might help. Somebody right, you don't want to help anybody. I don't think i ever got better like your greatest challenge.

If you, if you did, i had no problem helping you, you did like entrepreneur therapy sessions like six sessions with him and try to turn it's like turn around titanic i'll. Tell you why, when you're a boston fan, no, this is real. This is real people. Don't understand this is why i'm so worried about it.

If you're a 33 year old boston fan, never experienced any any any anything. You know it's worse, you think you did something yeah, but you're a big guy see i i think that's i think there. There certainly is a person, but i'm like we suck that's the difference, it's better than that. You know like what do you mean when you like, like i get that as a knock but like as like a genuine christmas, like, i don't think anyone there's a handful of people who think definitely and then they're they're psyched, it's a hair subconscious you're getting the You're getting the winner endorphin hit from your family, i'm important for sure thinks he's superior to other people because he's like no he's always thought that that's just that's just dave yeah, that's just dave as a person.

What do you think of portnoy? I love him. Yeah yeah, i think, he's been he's very underrated, underrated over. Very importantly, yeah. I think, he's underrated.

I think much by the way. All of us me you two him. It's all the same game like people decide something without really peeling back the onions. Oh yeah, i mean like building something like pornoid built, a media company in the most contemporary way.

That will always resonate with somebody like me, that is my overall thesis of business. What would be uh your number one critique of barcelo or dave? I guess, but us as a whole, you know what's funny and like i'm not trying to be overly nice, it's it's just, not something i pay attention like. I don't i don't have a great answer like i don't know like if i could see your p l. Well sure i could be like you overspend on x or you, oh yeah yeah.

You probably see a lot of that yeah you know but like but like, but like for all from all the public. Look in a political climate that we're in now anything like this is gon na feel too male into the macro world, but that i think, is unfair because i think there's plenty of things that are too female and and people talk about that and i think that's Unfair like to me, the criticism would come from missed opportunity not from what you've actually executed right. You know what i mean have been where i missed an opportunity, not because when you have a level of that success like was, the right was the sale that you guys did was that the right exit strategy uh was? Was there categories you missed? Were you too slow to tick-tock like, like you know, uh i'll, give you one the ready if you're like no, no gary, let's go deeper on this, don't give us a answer. The we're gon na give you the p l.

Do you know the first place? I would go, i would look at your merchandise business, here's why i think you guys and gals do merch so much better than every other media company, so it doesn't seem like the obvious place. I would go but my point of view is: you might not be maximizing it to the highest degree that if good lord, if there's more, there's more emerges to come well, i can tell you that they're definitely, you can definitely do more like just back to like Not fully looking but like you guys, aren't doing all the best practices on getting like your influencer merch. Pr like strategy should be way stronger, like you should have every single piece of merch: you do 4 000 tick tock long tail! Influencers should be rocking them. Don't do that buddy! You don't do that yeah! So like that! That's where my that's! What i get nerded about, not like you shouldn't, have said that right, right or like that, like that's just dumb, yeah yeah, what what? What about uh my favorite garyvee moment ever the uh, the shoot your family in the face, dude honestly like back to like the way media works so earnestly, because i believe in it you know.

Unfortunately, this is where tick-tock can really you yeah yeah yeah. I spent 18 months blessing out how to screw myself. I'm, like you know, even dustin's here, like dust. You know we might have to rethink our tick tock strategy because because the way you could you know me stitched out of context, it's gold, but then you should stitch their stitches and go right back at it.

It's amazing, 100. Look, i i. I think that uh, it's very easy to take things out of context. I i believe that, if you think about, i believe that the world is not grateful and i think that the world needs a lot more gratitude, and i think for me when i think about things when i'm upset about dumb.

If i think about somebody had something horrible happen today, i actually on a much more somber note. We had a very very, very tragic event happen at vayner. Last week we lost an employee to a horrific situation. That's all i've been willing to share it.

Sucks. Look even just saying it takes the air out of this room. It's real life like real happens, like somebody just now lost a child in at birth, like like life, happens and like when you do what i just did it. You know it here.

It sucks the room out of a fun moment, not fun, but if you're having a really bad day around dumb, like i didn't, go viral on social media this month or my coffee's cold, like the subway sucks or eh like my bus, is later and like like Dumb that everybody complains about, if you go to that extreme place of like yeah, but this could have happened, i actually do think it helps people with perspective. Sure people aren't good at the easy way like i'm giving them the extreme. Like think about, like something tragic - and i understand that people are like what the is the matter with you, but i'll tell you what's the matter with me when i tell you to be grateful for what you have everyone's like yeah on to the next thing, like People don't do well yeah, they don't like they're, like people. Take everything for granted.

Everything. 850 million people on earth don't have access to clean water. We have seven bottles of body, armor shout out body armor. We have 700 bottles of body armor in here like on the shelf.

Half drank 850 million people on earth. Don't have access to clean water. The are you complaining about. I believe in that, and that's what makes me happy.

That's what doesn't allow me to burn out. It's real for me and, like you know i'll, let people mean me mock me, make fun of me in perpetuity. I'm gon na pump this until my last breath. I have two agendas: get people to figure out how lucky we are and win a super bowl.

I'm really excited about the jets brother i and but but i can get really unexcited fast. Let me explain how everything is this offseason yeah everything yeah everybody's, going to take a step forward? Everybody's going, like money has to fall in the place of the drought, has to come back and everything. That's what's crazy, though everything has to click like that's all football, like that's uh the jets, like that's football in general. It's just like one thing goes wrong and it's like that you're! Not if the rams don't push you with the way the browns don't cut obj.

I don't think the rams wan na right. It's like everything, yeah right, breathing down we're talking real football. Now, right, like yeah the browns, because the first couple plays in the super bowl right yeah, just like that alone. What about what about the impact once woods got hurt on the season? Who knows where the rams finish the season? Look! What happened to the cardinals cardinals were, there were better than the rams, in my opinion, at three-fourths of the way two halfway through the season.

What happens to them? Hopkins gets hurt late, season's over what happens to the rams. Woods gets hurt. That would have been a real problem. The way cup would have been covered after that, if they didn't have an alternative but obj slides in he's his best self, and here we are yeah.

You look like like yeah. The butterfly effect is crazy cause. Then you talk stafford like then stafford's, probably a bad move, because you lost picks until 2027. Think about think about the bengals.

If you're a bengals fan right now, you're chilling in the cut you're like jamar chase higgins, bro you're by the way dan marino made. The super bowl in his first or excuse me second, i think her first set year yeah. Never again, i thought i as i'm older than you. I'm like this is gon na win five.

This fucker's gon na win seven, this sucks he's in our division, maybe never again right. I look at i look at look at the chiefs. Look at the bills right! Look at the chiefs dude the afc right now someone's going to be getting shut out in the next few years. Well, this is the biggest problem we have.

No there's got to go through here are the following: here are the following: quarterbacks that are under 27 years old in the afc lamar jackson, josh allen, yeah he's like the worst justice right, justin herbert yeah, joe burrow, that's bad patrick mahomes. I mean this is chilly right now, but by the way, like there's a hair of optimism on mac from patriot fans, i mean i still think, particularly in the locker room. That's what i've said is that my the most important thing for me is the guys in the locker room are like he's the guy. So if they believe in it, then you know my.

My ability to evaluate a quarterback is very low, but the patriots were a sneaky 10 and eight yeah. It's all said and done they were 10 and 8 and go through the on the next show. Can you go through with him? The 10 wins because there's only two, even decent ones, the other eight are straight garbage and so like, let's not get too excited yeah. There was a seven.

There was a seven win streak that was like legit, mostly destroyed teams. That's right by the way the chargers win it sold us now. The chargers win was very impressive. The titans win was impressed.

Those are impressive, wins yeah um, but the chargers didn't make the playoffs and the titans, but you also annihilated the jets. The second time you annihilated jackson, like annihilated, like 50 spots um and for belichick, to have many seasons without brady, now five, where he's only won one playoff game. If the patriots go the next four seasons and win no playoff games, i believe that the narrative on belichick's career could get very weird. I think i think good.

I agree with that and i was always uh higher. If i was him because he's done with this and not he's such a, but he knows he's a great coach because he is defensive like he is, but the legacy in it. Let's call his way to spade. If they don't, if they don't, if they don't win a playoff game in the next four years, it's going to get worse.

People like us empire just one subject. I think it'll happen in new england too, because the media is so a little. You know not doesn't love bill and then there are fans who are die-hard, brady, guys and so like, like i've, always been more, it's brady more than belichick, whereas dave's always it was more belichick than brady. And now that like it was always fun because who cared it didn't matter because we're both on the same team we'll give you who it is now that it's separate now that there are you know there are uh diverting beliefs in it.

Then i i think it will get pretty loud whether he was actually a good quarterback or whether he just got really lucky. Let's hope we're doing that conversation in four years, all those young quarterbacks are gon na keep us out of the playoffs yeah. It might still make me happy, i think i pull off when i'm i got ta get out of here boys great to see you continued success.