Like to me, i'm looking to be happy and like i have unlimited knowledge of people making less than 100k making less than 50k that are are happy like. I have buddies that i grew up with that are like pumped making 80k a year, nice salary, some nice salaries. I hate when people like 80, like the world's up like 80k, like if you don't now, if you don't, if you live within your means but like by the way, 80k comes with a lot less pressure. Do you understand what my life is? I wake up? I go right to my phone offices in singapore offices and you know in in mexico city.

I have 45 20 employees that are that are ukrainian and russian. Do you understand what i'm dealing with today like when you like, diddy and biggie that hold mo money more problems? That's real bro, like like, i don't envy being like. I'm actually upset that i'm my alpha one i'd rather be a number four. How how long have you been trying to buy the jets and, what's stopping you is it? Is it the money? What is it uh since fifth grade, which was the year? I realized that i couldn't play for the jets, so i pivoted i have such good hand-eye coordination that in second first third grade i was confused.

I was like the best athlete because i was just at my hand icon, like even now, like i remember in college. My buddies are like you play darts, i'm like no, i don't play darts. I come and hang out play darts, i'm like okay and destroyed their face. Like i've really ping-pong all the hand-eyed, i'm dominant fifth grade is when speed size, athleticism agility started to become a factor, so i was like god damn it.

I can't do this so uh. What's stopping me now is the money, the fact that the johns - i don't have it yet yeah uh the johnson family - isn't selling um. That's it what's the price. What's the price on that team, you think i think, by the time like i think, they're.

I think if i buy the jets, it happens in 15 or 20 years um, i i mean who the knows i mean i think if the jets went up for sale today, you're looking at seven billion, are you changing that stadium because met life's a? I would probably move it the if you know if i buy the jets. There's it's a weird thing: i'm a jersey, boy, right um. I hate the giants like i hate them like it's insane. I despise the giants um, so the thought of sharing a stadium with them, especially when everyone that's old, still calls a giant stadium.

I'm like glad you called it metlife, i'm like okay, uh i, but when i immigrated from russia, we lived in queens when i first got here and i i'd be lying. If i didn't say that i've thought about the concept of moving the jets back to queens. If i buy them, so i'm not sure like again, i'm 20 years from now my life's going to be different, the world's going to be different, who the knows what i might put them on the moon. You know like so so uh, but but yes, i think, given how old the stadium will be when i roughly feel that i'll be in striking distance, i do think i'll have an option to do some with your like business stuff right.

Obviously, you know you do the tick, tock videos and you're, obviously very successful, and going all the way back to the wine library right like how you kind of started it it blew up, but in general, what percentage do you equate to um like people being lucky? As well as like, you have to be good, so like do you? Do you think that there's there's definitely right place right time with a lot of things like you? Look at dave with barstool right like he had to be good because he was he's talented, determined, like fighting bums, to hand out newspapers but, by the same token, 20-year run of tom brady mix in the red sox, the celtics that kind of plateau him. So, like my intuition is that portnoy's energy, he would have done something else and we'd be talking about him being lucky that coffee was cool or that like sledding got hot. You know like got it. Here's where i'm at with so luck.

Yes, i was born in the soviet union. I got lucky that i was able to leave during that era, where my grandfathers both went to jail for a decade for being jewish in russia and like for being entrepreneurs, and here i'm a hero. So, yes, here's the problem. If you're watching this show and you use luck as a weapon, you lost.

If you sit around and say dave's, lucky sarah's, lucky ricky's, lucky youtube: three are lucky: if you use luck as a weapon you're, because you're using it as a medicine, to make yourself feel better that you're not winning and that's a very tough mindset. I don't. I don't envy that i actually have a lot of compassion for it. I'm not razzing, i'm empathetic.

I think we should talk about it because, when you're, using luck, everyone's like any person, that's born in america, you're lucky like like, like there's 850 million people on earth, that don't have access to clean water. Like i love when people are like in america drinking a six dollar coffee on their thousand dollar iphone tweeting you're, lucky you're, lucky, that's a good point! Gary! Oh! I have a lot of good points. My man, you know, i i had this question and i was thinking about it on the train here i know you're big into the nft game, i'm big into the sports cards me too. I was bidding crazy on that kobe.

Bryant sports illustrated i've seen that yeah. I wanted that i was the runner up to that. I'm pissed. What would you say to like a like a let's say, a 13 year old kid? Would you would you say for that kid to both both you would say yeah.

This is what's so funny about the world everyone's obsessed with or when the answer is always and gotcha right, like you know, the card guys are like you like. Nft people like yo real world is dead, the real world's staying forever, but the digital world's very real. Let's not get confused and they both coexist and like people, give a about having a blue check mark on instagram and people care about getting a fat ass north face to rock like we're it's we're in a both world. I was weird you brought that up because i just you know i just got both.

I just got the uh the north face and i just got the check mark on instagram. I love it. Listen i i do my homework coming on. These shows um, you've, seen i've seen a lot of videos of you with like yard sales and just kind of searching vintage stuff, and you talk about kobe bryant, like chances are you you, but when no one thought cards were big 15 20 years ago, you could Have saved that what is i guess like in your adult life, but more so as a kid.

What is like, the goat toy or card or like jacket or fashion thing you wish you saved because obviously now you have the money, you can go, buy it now, but it's not the same as like hey, i saved like an untouched pair of jordan ones from 85, because i had the foresight or like ninja turtle, you know what i mean like what with some stuff, you wish you saved being like hey, i held on to that forever. As a kid. Ah, that's a great question. Um, i bought most of it in the 90s at garage sales, but what it was was my ljn rubber wrestling figures from the 80s, specifically macho man, king kong, bundy kamala.

So that was like my like that 1990 frank, thomas leaf rookie card. That's another goat! For me, uh, my altoon starting lineup is a goat for me. Um and probably uh sound uh, sound, wave, uh um, the uh transformer and boba fett, the original star wars figure. Those are probably my goats.

Why frank, thomas? I was a humongous baseball card dealer when i was a kid like like like on some whiz kid like making two thousand dollars selling baseball cards a weekend when i was like 14., i was you know like like back to like not being in fifth grade having To pivot, like back to luck, i believe i was my parents had sex at the right second and made me a naturally great entrepreneur. I don't what the did. I do right, like i'm just really good at it, and so i was really good at sports cards and my prime was 1990 91 92. and frank thomas 90 leaf was like the it card even more than the griffey rookie, that a lot of people talk about.

Like when i was in it that was like the 70 rookie that was just like. It was just the card. Okay, interesting, what's the best card, you got right now, gary sports card. I have some serious.

Now i've spent some real money. Uh i mean i have a. I have some very high grade: george miken 1948 bowman rookies, that are six figure cards um bill, russell rookie. I have some basketball stuff, that's very, very, very valuable.

What's your take on uh psa, you know they're starting to charge people. It's a main amount of money, insane amount of money to grade these cards and i feel like it's really unfair is that are they? You know i'm a little out of the loop because i've been so in a coma of nfts for the last 14 months, but i thought correct me if i'm wrong, so when i, when i got re-serious in 1718, obviously it was not very expensive, then the whole Hobby blew up and then there was all the shortage and the backlog, and i thought it got very very very expensive. Yeah am i am i incorrect that it it's come down from that craziness and are you saying it did come down, but it's still expensive? It's it did come down, but you know i remember when it used to cost. You know 20 bucks to grade a card, and now, if you have let's say a lebron james rookie card, they go off the value of what that card is and charge you their price.

So i think it's really unfair. What they're doing yeah the good news is. The free market will adjust so to your point. If sgc, if i say like then you'll get startups, i mean some first of all.

Let there be no confusion. We are going to have computerized grading, ai grading, somebody's building, a fax machine scanner like some sort of piece of technology that is 100 going to change our industry. It makes too much sense. The ai technology will be able to do all the things that a human can't catch, but they're, i don't give a who the best creator in the world is at psa they're, not beating a robot, that's true, so i think one of the things i think a Lot about, because i put real paper into cards, is when i have to regrade it in 15 years for the and it could be psa.

It could be somebody else. I hope my 10 week stays. You know you know like some shit's gon na go down. That's a good point.

Do you do you have to? I mean this is kind of a crazy question and you probably spoke against it but, like i guess, work balance or like do you agree? You have to be on all the time like do you watch a movie every once in a while, you watch a program like. Do you break it up where you're like hey? I just need to what yeah listen. My point is when i'm on the field i'm going hard, so i sleep eight hours a day every like people like you, know my energy people up and when i'm working, i'm actually working like i'm not sitting around finding some funny video on youtube and then on A text drive with my college, buddies for an hour and a half about it and then taking an hour lunch and like all the that my employees and other people do you know like which i'm pathetic to when i say my employees. I love it like.

Do your thing like i'm you're, not trying to own vaynermedia, i don't need you i hate when bosses are like they should work like me, i'm like then give them the same amount of money, dick, like i hate that sense. So, for me yeah, oh i i mean. Not only do i completely tune out for every sporting event right like when the jets do their little 24 7 on youtube right jets were like. I watched that, like i love documentaries, especially sports, like sports, is a great outlet for me.

My family's a great outlet like a good dinner with, like the fam like love that the most um yeah i mean my communication style. I'm a high energy dude back to dna, like like i love when i like, put out content people like cocaine, adderall and all my real friends who know me laugh because they know i haven't even smoked a cigarette, let alone all that, and so i just have A lot of natural gratitude excitement optimism. Fire ambition, hope i just have that you think you can get talking to like your college. Buddies um like staying in touch with people who are just like the average joe do you think you can get perspective of them or like a situation you're having trouble in business or you're, trying to figure something out and they're like idea or they're like input in It you think you could get like perspective from people not connected like that or on the outside that can help you become a better person or a better boss.

That's a great question i i actually easily do. I think it's audacious and ludicrous for somebody who has had professional success think that, like somebody that, like my brain, works a little bit different, i don't think success is defined by your bank. Account you don't mean miserable millionaires. I know like to me i'm looking to be happy and, like i have unlimited knowledge of people making less than 100k making less than 50k that are are happy like.

I have buddies that i grew up with that are like pumped making 80k a year, nice salary. That's a nice salaries. I hate when people are like 80, like the world's up, like 80k, like if you don't now, if you don't, if you live within your means, but like by the way, 80k comes with a lot less pressure. Do you understand what my life is? I wake up.

I go right to my phone offices in singapore offices and you know in in mexico city. I have 45 20 employees that are that are ukrainian and russian. Do you understand what i'm dealing with today like when you like, diddy and biggie that whole mo money more problems? That's real bro yeah, like i don't envy being like, i'm, actually upset that i'm an alpha one. I'd rather be a number four yeah.

You know, like i'm a firefighter when i have to fill out the you know: immigration forums. When i go into other countries and they're like occupation. I literally write firefighter because, when you're at the top of a big company, when you're doing when you're out there, the way i am where everyone's gon na have opinions and feelings on you, you're just taking punches all day, yeah, that's kind of what i meant like You walk into a dinner and your buddy joe, who like is a policeman or a union like and you're like you, come in you're all pissed off you're obviously happy to see him but you're like he's like. What's the matter you're like well, i'm having a problem with jerry, like he's, not communicating with the sales team, this is and he's like yeah.

The answer is yes, comma for full transparency, i'm a cocoon guy. What i mean by that is, when my shit's up, i don't burden anybody else. I go to the lab. I stay in my head and i figure that out but by the same token, do you think that's contradictory to what you just said like if you just gave him little pieces of info jerry might be like.

I don't know, okay, because i think the answer is. Yes and many times, even though i'm a cocoon some slips out, sometimes people give you. Sometimes you don't ask people, they tell you, i'm picking up signals all the time. Look, there's a tremendous advantage i have i was.

I came from the dirt when you live in a studio apartment with seven family members in queens and have no money you're from the dirt right. And so i and i was happy in my childhood and we had dick. So when you know that money isn't happiness because your childhood was built on you're happy as but you got nothing well, then you're set even the scenario you said. I don't really give a.

I don't get upset that much at business. It's not that important parents being ill scares. The out of me friend, being hurt scares the out of me, somebody being sick that i love scares. The of me dies.

Forget it travesty. I have a friend that i grew up with right now hospice. It's me up. Every hour losing a million bucks, even when i had nothing losing money money i'll, take it i'm trying to buy the jets.

I understand the contradiction, i'm playing my game, but i feel like an athlete like i'm on the court, an entrepreneur i'm on the court, i'm trying to drop 60 on your ass, but it's still a game. No, it's a good perspective, yeah! No, it's why everything's easy for me right, like i want to win. I want to be the honestly on the record on the mt on the mjt. I want to be the greatest entrepreneur of all time.

I want when everyone's wrapping it up and drinking beers at the retirement home at 19 and getting to entrepreneur talk in our age group watching this. I want them to be like vaynerchuk, but it doesn't really matter like. I don't think i'm better than anybody, because i'm good at business who gives a yeah. No it's a good perspective - i mean sometimes it gets in the way here.

I guess you would like everybody here, you're, obviously trying to you see what we do. You're trying to raise yourself and i'm pumped for you why the do you think i said yes to this yeah, but i know this show you guys are gon na leverage that i was on the show and get bigger guests and that's what i want for you. Thank you and why not? Why not give karma to other people appreciate it? Okay, yeah uh appreciate it. Thank you very much.