People that know you from social media Instagram whatever they'll approach me occasionally someone's like oh, you ever see Garyvee I'm like yeah I kind of know who that is. he's he's an acquaintance. is that really who he is and I'm like dude, you have no idea like this is like he's the tame version of himself you know I don't know where you get the energy, the drive, but I mean it's a blessing and and you've done so much good with it, Man, it's just it's incredible. This is the Garyvee Audio experience. Vayner Nation This is, uh, a very special friends giving episode of the Garyvee Audio Experience. and for this friendsgiving episode I Haven't decided if we're gonna air this on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving on Thanksgiving Black Friday the Saturday after, but somewhere here in a couple weeks we're filming this on the 7th of November Uh, we're gonna put this episode out and AJ told me yesterday at the Jets game that this is gonna be the first podcast he listens to in years. So uh, so that's all you need to know about what you're about to get here. So I get to introduce my three best friends growing up. Uh, they they represent so much to me for many that really follow me. we've talked about Edison New Jersey so so so much. and I talk about all that the Only Rule I told these three best friends of mine was I need you to come and fly in because Robbie turnick to the right of me he's still in the area but Eric Godfrey has left and that name may be familiar for some of you the hardest core fans because Eric Godfrey is the human being that made me a Jets fan and probably for me personally, the one that excites me that's in the room the most only because I've had the luxury of jamming with Eric and Robbie a lot over the last decade through Jet Games and such. Even though Eric has moved to Carolina is Andy Greco who also left the area recently was living in Jersey but now lives in Florida Andy Greco was the only one of these three that was in my actual grade. Robbie was a great younger Eric was a great older and moved into Edison in my second grade year, but left in uh, the middle of sixth or the beginning of seventh grade. I think actually I'll let him tell but like so for him to be here is really exciting. Yesterday we all went to the Jets game yes and they stunned the bills so I'm in a good mood. This may air after we lost to the Patriots a second time, so hopefully that's not the case. Hopefully we're still rolling, but perfect. Vibes It's like 70 degrees outside, which was definitely not November weather when we were growing up in. Madison Uh, so I'm really excited about this podcast they are. They've been tasked with trying to remember stories. We're gonna talk about childhood. we're just. this is gonna be a fun, fun episode and hopefully really my biggest uh takeaway from this is maybe this inspires some of you given that this is Thanksgiving week and some of you may have some down time to just reach out to a friend that you haven't talked to in a while. All three of them because of the fact that we grew up without technology. Meaning by the time we were all in high school and college and things of that nature, there was no internet or it was just starting. Uh, cell phones, things that nature. and so with all all of these guys I had to reconnect along the way. Starting with Robbie reconnect, we talked the most even like by phone number I you know and things of that nature. but and then Eric later and then Andy a couple years ago. but so that's the setup. I'm gonna let them introduce themselves and have an opening statement introduction who they are. An opening statement. They're more than welcome to share what they do professionally or an interest. but Andy will start with you Andy Greco All right, glad to be here. This is this is exciting. It's a long time coming. I'm really excited to be a part of this. Gary Thank you for inviting me so of course my man um I'd be remiss if I didn't mention who's not here with us. unfortunately. our friend Marissa who was supposed to be part of this years ago when we first talked about it. Yes, but unfortunately she recently passed away. so uh, you know we want to dedicate this to her as well. 100 um, but uh yeah and her family. She has. She has an amazing family I Stayed in touch with her over the years. sorry to interrupt Andy but she has an amazing son who just graduated high school um and an amazing daughter who is amazing at she's great at soccer she's she's kicking ass at soccer from what I understand and one of the nicest guys I've ever met. she you know had the privilege of burying our friend Marissa so I just want to say that Dave Striker he's a great guy. Awesome! So you know it's a little sad when you think who's not with us but at the same time super excited to be with Robbie and Eric and you Gary I mean this is like you know, a dream. You know to be here with you and to see where you've come. And considering where you came from, who knows better than the three of us at this table. of course I mean uh, it's just. it's just nothing short of spectacular what you've accomplished, man. And I'm so proud of you. So thank you brother! I'm really glad to be here. glad you're here! Yeah I'm so I'm I'm that guy and Sasha will say thanks for ruining our live and there's something along those lines every time I see him which is rare. um yeah again. I I Tell my people all the time how proud I am you man? Like like and I'll get into it more later when we're talking about it but like uh everything Gary always says is true about where he came from like my mom before she passed away. She would tell me stories about how Gary would come over hungry you know what I mean and he would give him snacks and stuff like that and like. that was like one of her stories that she always remembered about you. um but yeah, super happy to be here. So proud of you Man that's because I didn't eat as a kid. we're all very skinny all of us I Just like not me, you were big. yeah yeah, you were probably the Eater of the bunch. Yeah, we all played a lot Yes, like Wisconsin I would I would need snacks because we just literally played sports for four and a half hours. yeah every day and Bishop R's uh, there's a couple people here that work that work at Vayner that went to Bishop R that's interesting and I always tell you probably way after us. Yeah yeah, they're all youngsters. but anyway Robbie Turnick uh Rob Turnick? uh big green Rob For those that know me on Twitter a lot of you guys already know who I am I met a lot of you at V Con I'm happy to be part of the V friends family. um Happy to be part of Gary's Life This man changed my life for the better I'm gonna cry. he got me out of so many jams that like I can't even tell you I appreciate this guy more than anything and uh I knew I was gonna get choked up I haven't had a chance to tell him like this like how much he means to me and how much he affected my life in a positive way. I was going downhill in a bad way and right around that time his wouldn't be friends came out and saved my life. It really did so I want to thank you for that I Love you man love you too! All right, let's go to the before we really cried out here. let's go. Yeah, let's go to the origin. Let's This should be a lot of fun because I think what could be really fun about this is like anybody who's listening was like a friend group or reconnected with friend group I think a lot of our origin stories you don't fully remember it the same way because it's hundred years ago right? I Met Eric and Robbie literally within the first couple of weeks of living in. Edison New Jersey I moved in August there was a there was a huge fall. it's really I'm gonna paint this picture for you. there was this huge Farm Now remember this is 1982 Edison is now converting like much of New Jersey from like Farmland people don't really know Jersey like that like right there was a farmer we all know Farmers like literally a actual Farmer Joe who sold his farm to a developer and a developer built these townhouses which go ahead I was just gonna say because I lived there in my whole life and I distinctly remember before meeting Gary I remember the fence in my backyard? This is how profound this says. These two guys lived three houses away. right? Like yeah, Real right? Exactly three houses away on Tingley Lane which by the way is a name of a company here now at Vaynerx Tingly Lane Trading which yeah, we just announced it. So I have a new company called Tingly Lane Training Uh, it's a barter Media Company it's literally called Tingly Lane trading That's awesome. Um and they live three three houses apart Robbie's house was right on close to the road Eric's house was way deeper down so it's really interesting they weren't they were on the same road but they were kind of like one was on the front row back and then it was wrapped around this huge Farm which I don't know. they both knew because they remember it in their early because they were like seven and six when I met them. so like they were super little but they remember it. that farm sells and they build this thing called Dogwood Meadows Yeah and so Dogwood Meadows is this townhouse that opens in 1982 and one of the first six or seven people to move in is Sasha and Tamara Vaynerchuk and and my sister's best friend growing up Denise Laurie She lived in one of those houses well and was one of the first residents and her house backed into Eric's house and we all literally lived within. Uh I mean me and Robbie's house and my house touched with this hill so we were I don't know. Somebody help me here. I'm not good with feet. probably about maybe 100 feet like yeah, actually yeah. and then Eric was 300 feet to the left instead of the back and so I I met Robbie uh Robbie's version I Remember the story. Yeah, our version's the same I go outside first I recognize there's a kid outside I've seen a kid I saw a kid in my back. he looks my age. that's all I know So the next day I see him the first day the second day I go outside. you have to remember this is a development in development. like the houses are still being built around here and so there's mud and woods and like there's all sorts of going on and there's like a t-shirt in the mud. that is like a t-shirt. It's in the mud. I Pull it out and go to the house that I saw the kid and ask them if it's their t-shirt t-shirt Go ahead the way I remember it was just you know again to date myself 82 that's about right I was five years old. it was a summer before I went to kindergarten right and I was it was a Saturday morning I was sitting in the den playing in television and again it wasn't as hot out. It was a nice day so the back door is open and all of a sudden I see I got something out of the corner where I move I look over I turn to my right and I see Gary with his hands up against the glass peeking in my window with Liz standing behind him who didn't speak a lick of English either. yeah she didn't no and uh yeah, that was Dover and that so I got a little something Liz was still at home I was in the mix-ish and yes, that's exactly right Rob I was looking through the like you know and like is this your t-shirt that got us to talk that started the process I think it took me less than five minutes to get ready to go out and play with him at that point. like almost that fast and then how I remember it and Eric actually actually before I lead the witness I have no idea if you can remember do you know when we first met I I have a I have a memory that might be right. what's yours? What I remember is football and literally the story that you always tell and like you've been telling it for freaking years. Like that's my first memory. and you know, listen over the years I've had some drinks. you know what I mean so my memory may not be what it what it should be. but I remember playing football and you coming yep and asking you like you know like your English was not good. yep and I remember asking you like because I had just become a Jet fan. yeah my just I was not born into the Jets right? um I should actually lead with this. Actually okay um so my mother my father is is honestly a straight hippie like he doesn't care about sports at all. Yep, um my mother is a die-hard yaggy fan. like I remember we lost her several years ago but a huge huge Yankee fan. Dude, it wasn't super into the NFL that's why I'm a Yankee fan. You also made me a Yankee fan. Yeah I like and like your mom made you a Yankee fan. So I'm literally a Yankee fan because you're a mom. Yeah um so the long story short with the Jets like my dad, even though he didn't give a at all, he would still watch with me because he was. He's a great father. Yep and so we're watching and this is 81 81 They're terrible. like really bad. Yep. so I turned to my dad and I'm like my favorite color is green so I already have that. Yep and I turned my dad and my dad. This team is terrible and I remember him saying to me like it's fun to roof in the underdog sometimes and like from that between being green and being five or five years old and just not knowing anything I was a Jet fan from that moment and then the first season we had together was 82 and they went to the AFC Championship yes and that was like we cried. oh like we cried we hated AJ Dewey the most. Yeah the Dolphins when my parents told me my brother was named AJ I was devastated that never actually are you kidding me? that was like the can worst thing that I could we AJ Dewey was the single human I hated the most on Earth until my brother was named it all right? So I remember Robbie and I just become friends Robbie had an iconic at least for the four of us. an iconic jungle gym. This is an iconic jungle. Yes it was and it wasn't like like it's not like for all the youngsters it's not like the you see now that like it was like Robbie helped me it was. It was just like the framework made out of wood with like like large wooden dowels like like bars that you hang on like the kind you would hang clothes on. Make that my dad built it. Yeah they said well they sold them as kits back then. that's what it was. it was. There was no slide, there was no swings, there was nothing. Do you remember the casino? Yeah yeah I was yeah. I was gonna go okay save that same yeah. anyway Robbie has this jungle gym. It's super cool. I'm scared shitless of climbing it my friend. Robbie Here to the right is an iconic cliche 80s kid. This kid didn't see a tree, he didn't want to climb. he was like you were amazing anyway. so Robbie and I are friends. This is still summer, this is still August and I'm telling you we moved in. August So it's August We're all about to go to school Robbie to kindergarten, meet a first grade Eric to second grade Eric even though he lived literally 200 feet from me, did not go to the same grammar school as us because the grammar school we were all gonna go to burnt down right? Oak Tree Road right? Oak Tree Road I don't remember and Martin Luther King Martin Luther King was nice right? Martin Luther King was new and was being built but we would have done probably another they like. I don't know exactly how it broke down but me and Robbie went to Martin Luther King and you went to what? Eric uh so which was really sucked by the way, between Eric going to a different grammar school and always going to sleep away camp I will tell you right now I'm so grateful From 82 to 89 I got every minute with Robbie like we hung out every minute. The great disappointment for me was that I didn't get as much time with Eric as I wanted because he went to a different grammar school and he went to sleep away and I was always pissed when he would go away for the summer and then obviously not enough time with Andy. We'll get to his Baltimore Colts leaving in the night part of our friendship in a minute. So but Eric here's how I remember it. we were in I So me and Robbie just met. We played maybe two times, three times, seven days, 12 days. Not a lot, couldn't bid a lot and then he said my other friends are coming over I actually want to talk about you two if you remember when you guys met or for how long but you but Eric and Ellen his sister Ellen Eric and Ellen came over and they were playing on the jungle gym with me and Robbie and that's the first time we actually met but it was like quick. It was like late in the afternoon. We kind of all hung like you know for 10 15, 20 minutes and then this. then the Nerf ball football stuff happened later. But did you you guys had known each other or not yet? Um, no. we we had met yeah prior. um because just because we were so close and that and our parents even though they weren't super tight, but they were friendly. Well back. I Mean, don't forget this was neighborhoods in the 80s. Yeah, everybody knew everybody knew each other. and did you know Lindsay across the street from you? Yes, Lindsay's in that iconic picture of you me and her when we were like going to kindergarten in first grade for the first time. Yeah, there was a girl across the street on Tingly Lane who lived in a house she left literally that that year I moved to Seattle right? Oregon thank you. That was in touch with her mom for a long time and I know she went into the military I don't know much else about that. Yeah. Lins If you hear this, you're out there. Yeah, if you're out there Gary Yeah Robbie still lives. If I'm still in the same house, you could find me. Um, did you know Lindsay across because Ellen and Lindsey were friends. That's what I'm saying. Yes. I I wasn't like she and I were friends personally. play with nobody yet. not really. right because Rob was two years young. Yeah, because I'm so young like those licensing guys like until I was like really like you went to that school You're right, right? So that that's when I met all those other dudes like Benji Sabrin. So you kind of met when you met me. you were just starting me down right. Pretty much like it was all around each other but like and then there was a new kid and there was it. Didn't really think anyway. Andy Yeah yeah, get in here. you come. Two years later. I was late to the party so I joined I think 980 85 85-ish So we're talking like third grade to like beginning of seventh grade. It was third grade, right? Yeah I knew you weren't in my second grade picture. Yeah, it was third grade and uh, did you come in? when did you come in? There's some you know you came a little bit in I think it was beginning of the school year I Want to say like September October yeah it wasn't even summer. no it wasn't It's because it was mid-school years I remember my first day of school I had to like walk in in the classroom not knowing anyone and it was just like I didn't even know you then. um I think the first time we met and you moved into Dogwood Meadows moved into Dogwood Meadows like a block and a half for me from you guys from you know you and Robbie basically were next door neighbors and Eric was across the yard I was a little bit farther away, a block and a half away. Um and when I moved in I knew no one I remember the first the first memory I have meeting you and I think Eric was there too. you're at the courts playing basketball and I just made a lot of things I Just yeah, yeah we did. Yeah yeah yeah. I got some stories dust. how much time? what time is it great? So we have to 115 right because there's a buffer. All right, we're gonna get into it. Go ahead. yeah. So I mean come to the courts now to paint a picture I lived in a cul-de-sac right Robbie's right behind me because he wasn't part of the development, he was on the street. Yes. Eric If you if if you think about what a house looks like in a cul-de-sac I'm looking at the basketball Robbie's in the back I'm looking at the basketball courts Eric's to the left Andy's to the right and there's they just built these basketball courts and tennis courts. This is fancy for all of us. oh my. God totally go ahead. Yeah, so yeah, that's a good point. you bring that up. I mean we didn't live in a luxurious development. there were Town Homes We had a basketball court, a tennis court and like a little you know Green area to play but we we maximized it I mean we used it non-stop so I I roll up on my bike. it's like summer of or fall of 1985. you knew to Gary take your bike and try I was just exploring I was just exploring I was like I heard the report you were in Bloomfield I grew up in born and raised in Bloomfield until I was since third grade. then we moved to Edison you were used to what we were used to which is go outside, find kids play. That's it. I'm just painting this picture because I know a lot of people are 25 and I have no idea what the we're talking about. Yeah no it's just random. There was no this was interacting. there was no play dates, there was no Facebook meetup groups. it was none of that. we just go find friends. They said go outside we have food here when you come back. Exactly exactly. Seriously, be home for dinner and have fun and you have all that land and to do and you know what I mean oh my God we're doing great. You know both of our fathers are working there I left like four in the morning? Yeah, go ahead. so I remember just rolling up to the courts you guys were playing basketball Gary was like fully focused on the basketball game. it was him Eric I think it was like a two on two Eric and Gary versus two random kids I have no clue who they were but but Gary was like laser focused. He Was like all about winning and uh I just remember watching for a few minutes and at some point I know if somebody got hurt but you looked over Gary and you saw me on my bike and you're like hey, you want to play and I'm like yeah, why not you know I'm not a great basketball player but I'll give it a shot you know I came I came onto court and uh you know I held my own and you know I earned some respect from day one with you guys and after that I think it was just like hey, where do you live we got stuck to talk I'm like oh I'm right down the street I just moved in and uh we didn't exchange numbers or anything I just said I'll see you tomorrow you know I came out the next day and then you know I think the next day we did like a wiffle ball game at Eric's house in his yard and uh and then I got to meet barracks and then maybe like a week later you introduced me to Robbie and it was like I remember being pumped because my two best friends were not in my class right? Robbie was one year younger in my school Marissa was in my case yeah and Marissa lived down the street in Tingly Lane and like you would have been in Allen's class but I would have been Ellen but yeah, that's right. and so I remember you being in my class? yes and that was the coolest. like oh my. God my friend, an actual friend is actually in my class and that was the best. Yeah, it was great. I mean we we had such a great childhood I mean all we did was play sports. you know, literally it was just it. Literally it was. That's all we did basketball, tennis yeah, like video games no and lemonade, cold set golf, wall ball. all the games you made up I made up so much you made it golf Robbie I love your face right now I made up this crazy ass game. There was a good job, there was a gutter. there was a gutter water gutter at it's in the cul-de-sac right on the curb. It was right on the curb in front of my house. We would go to the end of the cul-de-sac which was closer feet away and we we would roll the tennis ball. You'd try to get a hole in one and then you remember and no matter where it landed, you had to use yourself. What? I Remember in that cul-de-sac was Spud he played Spud forgot about Spud right? That was like categories and you'd throw it down. That cul-de-sac was Central Yes, 100 You had that that open space between your house and the neighbors. It was just like a little Courtyard shout out to John and Linda they were my neighbors. Yeah they shared, they shared backyard and they completely gave it to me. yeah and us. Oh yeah right and destroy your flowers. Yeah if you're the grand kids of John and Linda who lived in Edison in 1982 on Teaberry drive like I need to hear from you because like they were the sweetest they were retired. He would always want to deliver Great! He always had the bread delivery truck. Unbelievable Yeah unbelievable. So that was. that's how we met. that's how we met and then from there it was just. you know we were in school together and we became super tight and I just remember like one of my first memories of you is you are always looking for ways to make money right? This is no here we go. no need started that hustle probably in like 1983. yeah so you you were always you know tagging me along with you on these ideas you had where there was a lemonade stand or one of my favorites was uh the car wash. So so here's here's a good story. Yeah so it's Saturday morning 1986 it's about seven in the morning I think I spoke to you the night before and you're like you're like you're like tomorrow we're gonna do something to make money I'm not sure what it is yet but we're gonna figure it out. So I was thinking you know he might roll up around 10 o'clock No. 7 A.M My doorbell rings. It's this guy standing at the door with standing at my front door with with a garden hose over one shoulder. He's got a bucket with a sponge and a bottle of his mother's dish detergent, the other. that's exactly right and he's like come on dude, we're gonna, we're gonna go make some money I'm like we're gonna miss the boat everyone's Gonna Leave they've got plans for Saturday we got to get out there. we gotta I'm like all right let me let me get out of my pajamas and go go wash cars with you Gary So sure enough I get dressed, throw on some shorts. we go outside, we go door to door ringing the doorbell. Hey can we wash your car? It's five bucks. We'll do a great job. If you're not happy, get your money back. like Gary had the whole pitch that was just I was just the idiot carrying the hose. We used their water and we we ran out of soap and at some point somebody just gave us some soap but we were I mean he just it was all about just making something from nothing I mean it was 100 You know it was. there was nothing you wouldn't try. it was just you know from day one I met you that you were just driven. Dude it's just it's just how you were how you were wired 100 and it you know to see where you've come in life. it's it's surprising because I never expect you to get to this level. but again, it's not. You know because you were always wired to be that guy, you were just always thinking of the next thing the next thing. and I mean it just played out really well for you. Man, it's it's it's a it's it's a great thing to be a part of. And I mean even though you know it was only three or four short years where I lived with you guys in Edison I mean I have such fond memories of those years even to this day I mean people. Oh God it's cool people that people that know you from social media Instagram whatever they'll approach me occasionally someone's like oh, you ever see Garyvee and I'm like yeah I kind of know who that is. he's he's an acquaintance and they're like yeah, you know he's just uh uh you know I don't know, is he real? Is he really like is? is that really who he is and I'm like dude, you have no idea like this is like he's the tame version of himself. That's funny because I use the exact phrase you have no idea, he's just he's just you know I don't know where you get the energy, the drive but I mean it's a blessing and and you've done so much good with it. Man, it's just it's incredible I gotta bring up stories. we'll get to it. I Want to keep going around? But we got to talk about your basement in 1986 because when Mike Tyson's Punch-Out came out oh yeah, I lived in Andy that's the time I spent the most time in your house because because Hanukkah was late that year, that's right and so Andy had Mike Tyson's punch out. we started really hanging in that basement. Yeah, for sure we had uh yeah, I got the Nintendo Entertainment System that had to be Christmas of 86. that's exactly right and uh I got three games I got Mario which came with the console, I got uh Tyson's punch out and I got the legendary The Legend of Zelda I know that and we were just like Non-Stop and I remember like you had to wait did you ever get Mike Tyson's punch out that year or did you have to wait? We shared a lot the three of us I never had it I never had it I played it at your house right I had excitements Robbie's room playing excitebike listening to Twisted Sisters I just found a rundium a Yom TV reps card in my basement of Bismarckee Yeah! Eric What do you remember about those earliest days? different School sleep away, camp like what's up? Yeah. I mean definitely when you first first we were like Inseparable and separate like literally, like every day. and like that that that's what I lived for. that's like it's all I really wanted to do was play sports like yeah even when I did get into video games with you guys but not as much like you got cooler than we did like you got into girls way before. Yeah we were like we like had crushes but you were like trying to really do it right. like yeah like you were about that life. I remember in like fifth grade the girls were fighting over you. yeah I thought it was very well I was Rocky you guys saw Xander yesterday that that face and the Charisma like I was very strong in fourth and fifth grade. but no Eric you yeah you. by the time we got into video games in 86 I was 11, you were 12.

you were 12 was 19. Yeah Well yeah, you were very focused in here. Yeah you were like it was Sports and girls yeah we're like it was Sports though yeah in the beginning yeah I mean I thought I could be good like I mean I was you were tall I was gonna say you were like six foot when he was 12. 100 Now you're six one, right? You were really tall right? like like I Remember like yeah. always tall and taller than like taller than me. Now I'm six foot three while we're early in the podcast. especially if like relatives or friends of these people we're looking, we're definitely looking for Bobby Duffy who also lived on Tingly. Lane I think his family still lives there. Is that right? That's one of the houses that has not been torn down, so I'm pretty sure his family still lives there. He was in the mix when I want to stick on 82 83 80 45 before we get to like 86 87, 88, 83.84 Not only was it us Andy was just about to come and then came but Bobby Duffy was in the mix with us Sports he played football. We played a lot of football. Yeah we were. We played wiffle ball. we played aluminum bat tennis ball in the cul-de-sac home run. that's how I chipped my tooth already. Yeah, remember I hit my face with the back. yeah tooth came out and then you remember the second time I chipped my tooth when I bit the car and made pretend I was George Animal steel. Yes, all right, we'll talk about that later. Um uh. but we played a lot of football and you need more. You know me and you played a lot of one-on-one Wiffle ball automatic. Yeah, so that didn't take a lot of people football did. So we had Bobby Duffy and then Andrew and Gregory the twins Robbie you knew their last names. There we go. That's it. All right? So weird. Everybody's listening. We're looking for Andy uh and Gregory Bastito who lived in Edison As the twins talk about, those guys were monsters. They were in fifth grade when I was in second I Remember that vividly because that's when I think they moved. they were three years older me and looked like my father like like I look like their child and they were core. they were outside all the time too. They played those two in Bobby Duffy and us three. then Andy came that would and then Michael Bronfman came in who also lived on Tingly. Lane Michael Brown when we're looking for you to cross the street from you, yeah, he came in like around the time you came in. Yeah, hey gang, You're probably hearing that my audio is different now and as much as I'd like to blame it on Dustin because it's always fun and it's like an inside joke. I Just did another podcast where I hit the wire again and this time I actually like knew what was happening because Dustin just told me I up in this podcast so luckily it sounds to me like fine and you'll be able to hear me. but obviously you're about to sense a change in audio I just want to jump in and say sorry and I love you and remember to pair Hi Hi Fruit forward Reds with your Thanksgiving dinners. If you haven't bought your wine yet, that was Marissa may she rest in peace. That was the crew. Yeah, yeah, and even like stragglers because we we I mean listeners. Well that's what I was gonna just get to. We had the wars between Dogwood Meadows and the Oaks the other condos that are literally across the street from the others three times every summer. Second third and the big one was sixth grade. I reached out okay I reached out to him on Facebook but he didn't answer me. oh man I like I actually you know I've talked to Brian Shannon Dixon I talked to Dixon those are kids we went to school with I didn't live in our neighborhood and nobody like you like. Okay, like Brian said at a sleepover birthday party that was iconic. So and then Tyler Bunting who passed right many, many years ago 20 years ago. It's funny, two of my core friends that were outside of you that were school friends both passed Rich Regan when you were still in high school yep my senior year I think I think so was my the was my Macho Man Randy Savage right him and Abel Franco April Franco I connected with too was on a video with me yeah Abel Franco and Richard and me were the Macho Man Randy Savage guys my class yeah and then and then and Tyler Bunting passed and what? I remember about Tyler My third grade birthday party was at my house and everybody came over and we played football on the grass in between the cul-de-sac and the basketball court. and like that was on the time that was the place. I bought ODed first when I jumped on his back and just pounded his back. actually the air came out of his little body. No actually you know what? Big shout out to Odette Weinstock we really really fought second third sixth grade like really had a rivalry I bet Andy probably has some memories because he was in that class. Yeah but right before I moved because I moved at the end of seventh grade. we were actually very friendly. In seventh grade we played tennis on Oak Tree Road we had a nice tennis match that was like our a men's day like instead whatever it is. yeah I didn't know that either. um go ahead yeah I mean ODed was he was. he was in our grade and I just remember he was always a rivalry. Yeah it started like a verbal War back and forth if you know who could roast him the worst and then it would open the violence. It was crazy because we used to all like the big fights were always at this kid Marcos's house in middle school. Yeah in Middle School like I don't know what it was but that was a thing. Yes yes yeah we went to John Adams Middle School all of us I remember how pumped I was that me and Eric were gonna be in the same school which was the best you left before I got there I didn't We were never in middle school together. of course we were when I was in seventh grade, you were in sixth. Yeah, we have one year. okay uh uh. remember me and Marissa and Andy and do you remember when me you and Marissa in sixth grade when Rodney was still in fifth? we used to walk to school and me you and Marissa you remember the story you know I know where you're going. me and Marissa like we always would make like bombs like yeah I did and medium loved it and me you and Marissa were doing something in Robbie's yard jump in a second but me and we would the three of us that would be our meeting point and we would walk to school. we were doing something at a cop rolled up on us. huh? Tell us Robbie All right, well yeah, you know, fireworks coming Jersey we're expecting we're uh, illegal and um, my dad happened to have some bottle rockets at the time. Yes, I stole them out of the garage and I hit him up in the bushes which just happened to be where Gary and Andy and Marissa met to walk to school together and they found him and the cops rolled by and saw them in their land. Yes, sure yeah, likely story but we just fine you did because I put them there 100 I Remember that? oh I think my mom came out I don't know what else. what else look Andy I See you got to listen. Oh yeah I got my list. Rattle off your list. Let me okay, what's up guys. got the car wash story and I had Brian Chen you brought him off yes epic birthday party that was like winning the lottery just so everybody knows. Brian Chen's sleepover birthday party which I went to like three or four years and Addison and he was like right on the border with Clark I don't think you guys what you didn't you knew him later. this was grammar school right? I didn't and you were on Yeah by people it was Tyler Bunting Max Thomas Max Thomas Holy yeah Max Thomas and Tyler were always there because that was his core I and him and I were really close I was there remember Michael Wong Course smartest kids Michael Bong is the only kid in our third grade who voted for Michael Dukakis instead of Ronald Reagan you know I saw this house, we brought the story up. he's like that's why Dustin knows We did a class poll in 84 and everybody voted for Ronald Reagan except for Michael Wong and I'll think about this. this is now 30 40 years later and I still remember Yeah, so smart. Go ahead. So all right. so I got that. So what about? by the way, Brian just saw everybody Brian Said sleepover party was the equivalent of going to Coachella right? the Super Bowl Ibiza and Vegas for a month and winning this 1.9 billion dollar power lot. And that's how big of a deal this party was. Yeah, I mean yeah, it was. by the way, it was just a sleepover room playing video games. It's just like the 80s. He sold it. That's what he was like. The week's leading up to that party. it's like oh, we're gonna have this game Brian Chen's what sleepover was the first time I heard Guns and Roses wow Jennifer The Ugly Jennifer The Ugly the Big Meal I think I sent you the lyrics I don't think people understand like when people I love when sometimes people like scary even like hip hop I'm like if he's back to if they knew oh yes I Thought we thought we were going to be professional. we thought we were the Fat Boys We really want to one day we'll be the fat boy. We see voices. we didn't wear shoelace like it was everything. Yes we were born into that era. it was just. you know that was fifth grade on the bus and we come home Robbie was on our bus he was in fourth and we were in the back of the bus. We ran that bus. Yeah and we let's represent you ran it up at school. Yeah and so we'll have to get Do you remember that election? Yes, yeah. Gary's uh, fifth grade was class president. Um yeah, that was the time for school. went kindergarten to fifth grade. Fifth grade is the presidential election? Now it's fifth grade. Yeah and um, just give you an idea. Timeline: The vice president with this kid Scott Robinson who I helped him might be posting for I mean his phone for Scott Robinson for Miami Vice President that's the time framework Gary's passed out dumb dumb lollipops and Captain Morgan gold plastic coins to get people's votes I would like to see if he did in school today pass out Captain Morgan does not get lost. You're a fifth grader. takes from promotional. By the way, anytime you played football in the backyard you gave me a Captain Morgan hat and I had to be the Pirates you were and then you ended up being on the pilots and you know what? I made the All-Star Game and you get Gary and Eric actually came out today I Remember like yesterday I Remember I I Do you know how vividly the reason I just brought up you were on the Pirates I Remember that bigly that we came and supported I remember vividly being stunned. you were good I know you kept getting better and better and better with your hand eye and then I because of that I stopped playing. What about wrestling? Yeah wrestling in my basement? We did WrestleMania with the twins I think we did like a Survivor Series in fifth grade are twice the size that I am. Now it's like they're like six, two, three hundred like Monsters 12. and and Gary was always like they were tag teaming him. it was always Gary versus the twin and somehow he held his own. I mean you were getting suplexed and pile driven. you would just it was all mental I just refused every single time I was in a death match against Marissa like even ropes and jeans swinging and yeah, you remember what I really remember is I it would I would head butt people because my head I was just convinced that I couldn't hurt my head and most people just didn't like getting hit in the head with the head. Remember I don't I Seriously think I forgot all of these stories because you have a matter of head butts. So Gary was a much better tennis player than me. It was because Eric it was because Eric was good. yeah and I wanted to beat him and so I would when he would go to sleep away I would play tennis against my wall where we played wall balls for seven hours a day. That's right, one-on-one tennis by myself. Pretty good. I got a good opinion. yeah and that's a perfect segue where I'm going with this. So we we you and I I was the arbor player when I first played we had the wooden rackets and you you actually worked with me. If you wanted somebody that was decent that could you know challenge you. so if everyone was missing Eric because he started going to sleep everywhere you got to fill in. so so sure enough I I took a liking to it yeah I started practicing on my own and uh you know you would destroy me. it would be like six one and like usually by the way I just wanted to know my feelings are coming back yeah it feels Michael so it's still a little blurry blurry. think when I know where to go ahead so he you know he just you know we didn't play often when we when we did play like you were super annoying. so I decided I'm gonna practice and then one day you're like hey you want to play some tennis I'm like yeah sure why not let's try it out, we'll probably kick my ass but let's give it a try. So we played and the first set I think you beat me like six four and you were like confused you usually just nominated I would be like six one or six girl and the one game be like a mercy one just so I would quit. Yeah exactly good job Andy so so this first set like you were trying and I was trying it was six four yes so you're like all right well you know you got better. you know? Yeah, a little bit a little bit. The second set I somehow beat it. Yeah, like Six Four yeah. I'm starting to remember I Think we're like holy like you're just like something was just in your head. just not. Computing And you're like we got to play this third set. This is it. This is it. And I ended up winning the third set. Yes and you were just lost my holy, you just took direct. You're like I gotta go in the house. This is crazy. It just blew your mind a week later. I think you spent the next week practicing practice. Yeah it's the wall and then you beat me like Six one, Six two. You're like all right. all this right over the world. I Was so confused I Remember this is what I wanted from this podcast but you know it was. it was. I Mean at the time it was intimidating to play in sports because you wanted to win. You had to win. But it pushed us all to be better. like the Rush Point like he wasn't a great player and then all of a sudden push them and you know you always raise the bar and you continue to do that look at in your personal life in your professional life. I Mean you raise people up. That's why you know it's funny when I wrote my last book 12 and a half comp competition being competitive was in it and I took it out because I actually want to write a book about just competition and how important it actually is and we shouldn't demonize it. we shouldn't give me Place trophies And it's okay to cry when you lose. Absolutely think about it guys. How much did I cry when I lost from 19.

1980 You hated to lose. Yeah, you did hate to lose, but I wasn't afraid to cry either. I cried at all the time, right? and then he would keep playing until he beat your ass like yeah, the game wasn't over until he won. The man was gone. Okay, we're good now we can move on I Wish friend you and I were very competitive. Yeah yeah, Sam's still yeah to this day in different ways of selling myself. Yeah, it was. So that was such a fun era. All right, what about SummerSlam Sleepover Now My immigrant mom Tamara Finally lets me have one and it's SummerSlam First one first one pay-per-view which was unheard of. My mom letting me buy pay-per-view You have to understand that's like buying a Rolls-Royce by spending 18 or whatever it was was like a billion for all of us. I Will never forget this sleepover to this day. I Die Yeah! That was amazing. especially because Elizabeth took yes they lovely. Elizabeth Randy The Macho Man the Savages manager took over, took off a piece of clothes and had like a mini skirt on and literally I turned to Andy and I was like I think I Think We're Men now I remember Eric's like let me explain to you shine it is yeah I would sit there playing with Hulk Hogan songs you're like you want to play with the rubber wrestle. Here we go. That was right. you should bring the wrinkles we played that you didn't choose to chew the feet and hands off of them. Yeah. I used to put everything in my mouth, not everything, not everything all right. whatever. What else do you remember? Give us some more like Vivid memories Story Time what do you remember when people like give us a story? A lot of my to be honest with you is I don't know if this is cool but it comes later. Go ahead, go ahead. um um so uh about six years ago we lost my mother unfortunately uh my sister and I I just have a couple things my sister and I are drinking which we like to do. um my entire family went to because this is the first year without my mother. we all went to Texas and I believe this is when the story came out but Ella and I had drinks and somehow it came up that Ellen and Gary were each other's first kiss. Now at this point I'm like four I know at this point, I'm like I'm like 42 and I'm like obviously I don't give a but I was just like how did no one tell me like this? Me and Ellen made it back. yeah I'm very disappointed that Ellen broke it. Not the whole world knows Yeah. um and then another one. I Remember Ellen's birthday party at a movie theater? Oh totally. and my mom made me give her a rose. It was like this big thing. yeah I don't know. Is it back to the future? Quite possible? I think it was. That was it. That was it. I'm pretty sure. Um so I thought that was a pretty funny and funny tidbit. but yes, she ruined the pack. So um Ellen was also six foot one? Um excellent. Excellent women's basketball player. Yeah, yeah. very very. I Remember when her and Marissa were on the team together I was like so pumped because they were good friends but went to different schools as well because that was Marissa and our like we said with Alan went to a different school and we all converged in Middle School each other? Yeah. I Remember those games go ahead. Um so piggyback. you know, just something a little bit different. So and you probably know this already. but like the day that Gary's parents decided to move was like and we were older. by this point it was like I was devastated. So it was. we just lost Sandy the year before right? It was suddenly I was even though we were in different grades and we had just converged in school like we were still like running with different groups and but we were so ultimately it always came back to 100 but so like you do more. Mitzvah I found the tape oh yeah oh I so it's like tons of photos. Yeah it was such an iconic day for me. Everybody was Dirty Dancing Yeah it was like it's Benji yeah oh my God Benji yeah Benji big shout out to you brother for like Chris Farley before there was one? Yeah, absolutely absolutely. and the nicensing twins I Love those two? yeah I played for that. We were on a baseball team together. uh you and I you got remember Eric just moved back to Jersey's dad was the manager of her team I was really good at baseball when I was little and got Dr I was in a 10 year old league and the way North Edison did it is I got drafted to like the majors yes and because you were better than the other yeah I was yeah it was really. we had a really great team that year and uh and that actually ended my career. They moved me up too fast. but I remember I was with all those older kids um and I just remembered him nice and since Dad was like the bad oh yeah oh yeah Artie I love that. Yeah yeah and John Longo's Dad yes you know John Long John yes Dad was the best was his dad is one of the football coaches. Yeah yeah I was gonna say yeah. very good. Yeah in high school too yeah I remember when I met I actually met somebody in Italy on a wine trip when I was like 30 that graduated with that whole crew. they might have been in your grade or my grade and they just knew Vinnie and long ago and Michael bottles of these guys that I was friends like your bottles. Check this out! I opened the brewery in Charlotte um recently. Yeah like it's my first job when I went to Charlotte and you mean three years ago? No last year? Yeah so I hadn't spoken about so it turns out Michael Bottles hits me up on Facebook he's like hey my daughter goes to UNC Charlotte I've been smoking I haven't spoken to this guy in 30 years. you know what I mean like I have so many great memories So it turns out I ended up hiring his daughter to be like my late houses he comes down I haven't seen this guy in 30 years. It's such a great time he came to the brewery. You want to hear a fun fact that you definitely don't know back to Like we were running in slightly different circles at this point. Michael bottles What trick-or-treating in Dogwood Meadows my last Halloween me Michael bottles and Vinnie trick-or-treated in Dogwood Meadows as seventh graders and on. remember when you go in Dogwood Meadows and you make a left to go to me right if you went straight yeah Eric Conrad lived on that street over Eric Conrad I'd love to find you bro ever cotton Brad's parents were divorced he lived in Florida or Texas during the year but he'd come to visit his dad. Remember Conrad is the first kid I bought baseball cards with okay in 1984. WoW Eric do you remember Eric Conrad or did you you called me the name is definitely anyway on that street I'll never forget it be Michael bottles and Vinnie start trick-or-treating right after walking from school from John Adams we go down that street and some lady put out a wheelbarrow and I mean a This is the like. Not like a Walmart wheel like a actual wheelbarrow filled with like 80 000 pieces of candy. Wow that's me. Michael Bottles and bitty took the wheelbarrow and with all the candy and I'm like well to get a Robbie's yard because I was always Central he was right there. oh my God it was also Central was Gary who's right behind him so that was it Michael you actually I don't need the well. we rolled it. all three of us enrolled the whole thing which made no sense because we should have just taken the candy out. but we thought what the? That's right I was just gonna jump in because of the Halloween thing I mean I was I was talking to my kids about this I just looked at the years 1987 Halloween fell on a Saturday we went out trick-or-treating Yumi and Marissa on Saturday morning we were walking up to people in your cul-de-sac We're just pulling in from the grocery store like eight o'clock in the morning. We used to hit every house in the Condors I don't remember that was one year, but we had every every house in the condos and we went to the other condos that were right near there um The Oaks and made the maple Town access to them townhouses. Yeah, we connected all of those. Then we hit Tingly Lane and doubled back to my house. We changed costumes and we went out again. Yeah, we went out again. Halloween was a babies for apples with all that makeup Yeah I was so like that. Talk about competitive. Yeah I needed to get the apples because they had a quarter in it. Yeah and I would die for a corn bag. Just so it's very clear to everybody. Andy's not joking I'm gonna die for 25 cents we didn't Do you remember the miniature golf course in Robbie's backyards? Yes and one other person stopped? Okay, But then we have to talk about Marissa yeah, who lived on we we would do lemonade on Marissa's house and that's when that shot. and the democracial. the mini flea market. Yeah that's that's what my early marketing phase came and I'm like this is not a garage by the way. this is a garage sale that had nine items package and some of your stuff was like oh my God it was promotional stuff for the liquor store and that guy gave remember when he got the 10 when he did the 10 Bill and then he wanted to come back but we were gone. Yeah but we didn't do that on purpose. No we we're just tired, we ran out of it and then we ran a lemonade lemonade. we were 10 cents. I always believed in low price so it was in the quarters and the guy came up with a ten dollar bill. That ten dollar bill was like a trillion I actually thought it was a million dollars. yeah I don't think he even like got it out of his pocket before it was in my pocket. Yes he filled his like bike thing and like that's why I in my trash talk videos. do it now because it's for that guy and then we gotta find that guy. what we did if there's some random guy I remember riding a bike in Edison New Jersey 20 kids and filled a water bottle for a ten dollar bill. We need to find him. Yeah but then what we did after that was what we did every single day. If you remember the last day of school, every single year we would all walk up to it used to be a crowd since that was 7-Eleven. Yeah so walk up there without whatever money we had we used to buy like jugs of lemonade and iced tea Gary's favorite candy mambas at the time I Love Mamas! We used to go anytime. whatever we got I mean chips everything. We just go back, sit on my back deck and just sit there and just show prepare ourselves. And we used to talk about and plan our summer. oh my. God We used to talk about and try and plan out our summer as much as we can like because I mean let's face it, Gary was always in charge. even if somebody else came to take charge, he took it back right away. but like I mean yeah, that was it Robbie go ahead obviously I remember something so similar to that word I Don't know if it was the last day of school, but it was. We we did some lemonade stand garage sales something. we made some money right? We might have made like 60 bucks I Remember Gary was like all right. Here's the deal guys. we have 60 30 of it goes away. we don't even think about that. That's fine. Get it out of your mind. Go to Trousers and we're gonna do it big and we went. You know, sitting out in your deck behind your house and your mom comes out with the bowls, put some chips in there. We got the music going I Remember when I was your sister I Remember at that moment yeah we built this city I Remember this. we love that bucket. yes we we or I just it's like I could I just have a snapshot of that moment in my mind Marissa Who else Who else? we need to give some shout outs just so people can like like email us and like like friends who listen to this that know these people. remember Robin Who is the dude that moved into Lip near you I think it was an Asian family? Yes yes they remember Taiwan I'm trying I don't remember it was Reuben and Robin it was something like that right? Okay I remember that his mom did the crushed ice yes with the red beans. it was like the weighted like every time I still see that in restaurants it immediately and we used to play Monopoly with them. Yes, do you remember we did this Monopoly with those dudes. They live like a few doors down for me. Yes I remember that. That's exactly right I Remember them I Remember them. Who else do it? Jonathan Casadoy Yeah of course. Williams Yeah of course Brian passed away. Yes yeah, those guys were Thug that was like they were so there was something like listen Edison had like some interesting parts of medicine. Yeah that was a there was a lot of there was a lot of you know what's so funny. Here's a fun thing to talk about that would be good for parents like fighting was real. Yeah if I lost I wanted to fight I remember I fought a kid his name was Rashawn the car I remember him he was I guess his family's from India but nice kid I don't know what happened we got like an argument in gym class. we're playing dodgeball I got him out he said and we ended up where I were fighting and I remember it was it was Middle School this is where the world was better. Yeah the explosive flight was over. you'd be good. Yeah you hung it out and I and I just remember we met in Marcos Hill yeah Marcus Marcos If you're listening yeah you at the hill by John Adams where the ice cream truck was the ping pong table in the back. That's right. Yeah and the fight I mean that was the signature moment of my middle school career was my fight with Odette in that where I was very close to losing right? somehow mustered up the energy to get him off me and then kicked them in the face and his whole face exploded. and then a guy stopped the car and pulled us apart and he ran off like that was like that was the crossroads of my life. That fight Anthony was definitely there. Yeah I was sixth grade. yeah Marissa was there and he was there I'm not sure I don't think you were there I was there for definitely one of the earlier ones. Yeah, you were there for one of them for sure. I Remember there was at least three fights. there was three fights that one in sixth grade was out there. that was the big one. Yeah because ODed pushed me in the morning into a locker and got on top of me and then I thought it was a non-event and by lunch I went to lunch and everybody at lunch is like yeah and I was like this is something I like it broke my framework so I had to I went up to Odette in lunch like we're fighting and Marcus's after school and then the hype built. Oh yeah, that's what it was and there was. you know how it is. There was probably only 40 kids there, but it felt like 40 000. yeah it felt like WrestleMania three Pontiac Michigan it was everything I Remember it was I Remember right before like we're both in our like sides and we're about to go in the middle I Literally Vividly, it's amazing. This is 1986. This is 40 something years ago I Remember Vividly, saying to myself if I lose this fight, it's over over yeah I think it's all over I can't go to school anymore Everything I've built here in the last six years. there's I remember being petrified and he got off. It's kind of like the Jets Bills game yesterday. he was like 14-3 before we got settled in right? Literally, that's the fight Odette was on top of me at that point. He was like solidly bigger than me. Oh definitely he was on top of me I remember that yeah, you were like this I was on the ground and like trying to like Dodge the punches and just remember thinking like this is almost over now and like I knew I was so crazy mentally that even if he landed clean that I like I knew that he had a like seriously actually make me go unconscious for me to stop right? oh absolutely I knew that about myself then and now I didn't I just didn't I just knew that if he got a clean shot and and it just like if somebody ended it like it would have been a loss. like a decision right? So I remember vividly deciding the only thank God we all wrestled so much I was able to like do the side to side side and when we fell off I had the leverage and I kicked him right in his face and he just started bleeding so heavy and Tyler's bunting was his boy. main recipes and I'm watching them run back towards the school. That's probably like you're crazy. his face like explode I feel like one of the guys was told I wasn't there. Oh well. understood I mean 37 times for the next 24 hours? Yeah like I was yeah your crown. make a documentary about it like you know, like that was big. The one fight I had with that kid Rashawn was yeah, you were there. you were like my height man, you were like 100 I remember it I don't remember him I remember how much I needed you to win? Yes we were. we were both pretty young you know I was about the same height, very same. uh but I was a wrestler too and you know we were very physical kids very very athletic and uh I just remember he was a bigger kid and he was pissed because he really I really got under his skin at dodgeball. whatever I did and what I said yeah I might have called his mother was around Marcus's Hill and Gary's it was just getting there early lay a couple shots in. Next thing you know somebody's gonna break it up. You're gonna be the winner. Yeah, don't wait, don't let him strike first. That's right. Go fast, go for the kill. you know? So yeah. so so you know the first like 30 seconds of the fight. which kind of, you know? yeah, each other outsidering each other up and I'm like I'm like Rocky's Corner yes Andy he's gone I Can't wait to do something. So I just remember at one point I just go for it I just rush him I grab him I grab him by the shirt. He picks me up off the ground, lifts me up. it's much bigger than me then. I grabbing a headlight, we're on the ground we're scrapping I might have scraped his lip and Drew a little bit of blood and I remember he gets up. he tastes the blood and Gary looked at me. he goes so so I just said all right I remember people getting into fights in at Martin Luther King winning but getting scratched and like remember like even then I was thinking about like how people thought things right I'm like blood went. That's right. Yeah, no that's right because to your point, shortly after that, this kid takes a little blood. he looks over me. he saw Rex because he knew all right I'm losing his fight if I don't do something big. So he comes in and I swear to God he hit me with three body blowers that was solid. didn't phase me somehow I guess I just yeah. too much adrenaline. but he got me good like he had me by the shirt. He was like hauling into me three clean shots. then I pushed him away I threw a punch, didn't land it and then I just remember somebody stepped in Mark was like all right it's over, it's over. Andy's the winner. he drew blood and it was like the kid Vashon his his mind was blown. he's like I just hit him with like three a makers and I'm ultimate with the L because I got a little scratch on my ass but that's just how it was and then Gary immediately the big dude that was like one security guard. oh no no okay I don't remember. All right. don't worry about it. How about the election? What do you remember about 10th grade election? fifth grade election. we made posters 24 7. yeah my mom yeah you were double winner. yeah I was back in both of both my boys quiz question. Do you know who I went against for president I'm just gonna ask you who did you oppose because I was it Was it a girl? yeah Turner who was I remember it was someone who was fairly popular. yeah it was a battle I'll know I want to hear it I Can't think of it though. My sister is screaming right now listening to the podcast because this girl's sister was also in her class so she was talking in second grade. I'm sure if you give me the name I'm gonna know Kim Delay Okay no Ellen was friends with her sister. yes you know was friends with her right? the kid okay, she had a younger one who's but Kim was in my Ellen was in my grave Helen and Kim were definitely Kim Delhi was a good student so she was probably in Ellen's back. Yeah, because from sixth grade on they had Junior High in high school. you guys and they're both. They're both brilliant. Yeah, yeah, that's who I beat fifth grade. That was a Captain Morgan giveaway. Yeah I only wore liquor promotions yeah my entire childhood. yeah. I Remember you with the Johnny Walker show that at some point for some reason 100. it was just so wild. like how much liquor stuff I wore. that's all I've worn spot McKenzie we were in sixth grade. this is literally Bud Light yeah and like we're wearing Bud Light t-shirts costumes I had Budweiser posters I had Marlboro posters. yeah absolutely that was a little later. something you had a pool table in your basement. Yes, it was all different. Like Liquor Merch yeah my dad yeah and dark. Yeah, that's where I had my Nintendo that's what we did. Yes yes, oh man, we had some reasons we just would. Yeah, we used to do like for hours for hours. Who was that kid that we went to Hebrew school with that lived on the corner of Oak Tree Road that wasn't where Krausers was. he was across the street. Oh my. God right? Brian Alexa What does that mean? Oh yeah, is that the name? Yeah, didn't you go to jail? Is that the same guy? I'm not sure. There used to be a gas station across the