What people don't realize that don't have businesses is for entrepreneurs that own a business. It's the fifth kid. it's the second kid. It's a kid.

A business is a kid. It really is. You really love it like that. when you're a pure bread entrepreneur.

you love it. you do. You don't want it to get hurt. You don't want it to die like.

you really care for it like that. Attention is the number one asset vayer Nation how are you I'm super excited for podcast With Friends Number six I missed number five um I I don't know how I missed that which is my favorite number by the way. that's why I always do this my photos I Wanted to make a big to-do about it. but first I want to give a big shout out to everybody on Twitch thank you for joining.

Big shout out to firsttime chatter Um Hworld. We've got three great uh guests here I'm going to do what I always do and allow them to go around the horn and introduce themselves and then we will just talk about some and then we will all go on our merry way. But most of all we're trying to provide you as much value out there. and my favorite part is um, we started a little bit late cuz I had a client thing I Hope the three of you got it to talk a little bit together, but what's been going on already? Just six episodes in I Had two or three people that have been on prior episodes tell me that they became friendly with the people around their table.

That is my purpose besides making sure you the audience. Everybody gets to discover different people doing cool things in the world so that we can take this process that I love of strangers become acquaintances, acquaintances become friends and Friends become family. So that's the goal. That's the agenda.

Boys and girls and let's like always start with ladies first uh why don't you tell everybody who you are and what you do? Well I'm Valentina Ferrer I'm from Argentina I have a mother Wellness cycle the name is Kower because we teach people how to have like a healthy lifestyle and enjoying it. We have like matcha hialuronic acid in powder. Everything is glutenfree and vegan. I Love it and how long have you been doing that from 2019 I Start in during the quarantine uh after I get pregnant so I may make my time to really work at home making everything.

Uh my business partner is from Australia so we start producing in Australia and also here in US Did you know her him prior? Did you find him during that time? So my thing is like always my dream was to have my own business to work at home because I want to be a mom a present mom but I need to work I love work like for me it's like I will I I Was here looking and I was like okay look what he have there hm or is curious yeah like Curious always creating business I used to put papers all around my apartment and create so much business I create mask for the face I like one day I come home to Argentina and I told my mom like Mom I'm buying the salsa Valentina from Mexico and I'm putting all the countries and my mom was like what you know like always my mind like that so did you have did any of your parents or grandparents have the entrepreneurial Spirit my mom is a teacher okay and my dad used to sell vegetables and fruits so now I'm from the mountains with horses like at my 17s I decide to take a bath to buir the city I never been in a city prior to that I didn't know how to cross the huge streets so for me I was like okay I'm ready I go you were a country girl like running like was crazy like Frogger like the first time I I take a flight was at my 20 years wow and I AR in Miami and I told my mom I can't do like that to watch you know the new icon building yeah for me was crazy it's cool I couldn't believe it's cool it's like people first time there in New York feel like it's cool I don't have that background but but it was in you yeah my my personality my spirit made me like go travel and open my mind and and always my family made me feel free and didn't really expect nothing from me so that made me like okay I do it because if not toen I don't give a no expectations I Love that I'm glad you're on the show My Man! um so my name is Marvin Douglas I'm from take the mic in oh sorry no worries brother you can move it around as much as you want. It's name is Marvin Douglas I'm from La um my family is from El Salvador I do fine jewelry and styling like fashion styling um also working on like other projects too like a kind of clothing jewelry brand called father of pearl um and yeah I mean I I guess like how I started was my grandmother did jewelry okay so she like bought and resold jewelry and with that she was able to bring my dad and like call his brothers and all that to the United States so she came over to the US yeah she came over to the US and uh and she flipped jewelry she flipped jewelry. She was kind of like is she alive yes she is okay. can you call her real quick? because I prefer Herby sitting in the seat because anyone who flipped to get their family to the new country it's crazy.

No it's inspiring as where does she live She lives in the United States now but I think she's in El Salvador at the moment got it? But she lives in La Usually or yeah, will she would she come to New York or is that going to be too hard? I'm being dead. She could do it brother. I'm being dead she speaks English No Should I learn Spanish before we have? can we I wonder if we should do an episode where I just translate in the app? No, it's completely like I'll be honest with you I'm I'm about to do this podcast with from a with a retirement home Community like I'm I am so hot on this. My team knows where I'm about to go I believe in our Obsession of Youth which is lovely.

We all want to live. That's great, look good, feel good, live a healthy life great but in our obsession with youth culture I think America more than any other place has completely lost their respect for their Elders AB We kids on a pedestal technology, youth culture. Everyone wants to look good and we've systematically in the last 30 years we weren't great at it. 30 years ago in America right? You know now I was born in the USSR Like you know, obviously we've got an immigrant crew at this table.

Like most immigrant families have real respect for their Elders There wasn't even an option. Yeah. America historically has not been remarkable at that. It's not been the DNA No.

And by the way, before anybody gets upset I'm not saying Americans don't like plenty do but I'm talking in Net score Americans Hate I'll tell you right now I think no one here's confused. it's ins I'm seeing out there like I see people not standing up for like grandmas at airports we make. We make fun of them because they don't know how to use the new apps. Kids are completely dismissive of the grandparents right now like you don't get it, we've lost our way and I'm obsessed right now with talking more about us needing as a society.

All these 22y olds that are lost they could use some more 80-year-old Friends Real talk. So anyway if you can talk to grams tell her Gary ve wants her on the show. That would be amazing I mean she would love that honestly I might bring you back and have you translate it with me cuz I think we I think the world needs to hear her she came to America flipped jewelry to get her family over I that's my F that's what I love flipping and I would say she's probably the most successful person in my family and it's all her well. I Promise you she's the most successful because when we redefine success which is another goal of mine when we redefine success from just money and things to impact, of course, she's the most successful.

Regardless, you can build a billion dollar brand and flip it to Lbmh which I hope for you. She's still in my mind going to be the most successful because of what she put down I Agree. think about what she did I agree. that effort just like you Chang Your family like what you did.

No, but it's real. It's real talk. My family the first time came from us was because of you. That's insane.

Yeah so Grahams did that. she did that. She kind of. you were born where yeah I was born in Los Angeles and what kind of kid were you I was like a dick K I'm kidding I'm kidding I was probably a no I was just like a really like quiet observant kid.

um like my mom even thought I had I apologize I'm going. This is going to be a really good show and I forgot to tweet it out so you keep talking I'm just want to apologize yeah I was a really um, quiet observant kid. um my mom even took me to the doctors to get like checked out. She's like you don't like he doesn't talk, he doesn't cry like I'll sit him there, he falls over and he just kind of stays.

Were you? do you feel like because you were just you were in the middle, you were too high always um I'm still like very observant you know and it's like now I just I can talk um outside of being a baby but um it was just always like a like like how you said like a curiosity kind of towards the world you know and everything and I think that's why I watch that's why I look around so much um I'm always staring, observing and that's kind of the kid I was but the work ethic too um I think being Latino too um I was working from like the day I started walking I feel like like I was a little kid cleaning houses with my mom and like such a big just always yeah just always doing like the weirdest jobs I was working like at Six Flags when I was like 14 years old and like look brother I swear to God my my my biggest belief in life biggest belief is that adversity is the foundation of success. Yeah you know what has become incredibly clear to me when I read my 10,000 DMS a month from the kids is the kids thatw grew up with less that had to do the that. We all did have an advantage. Yeah, they don't They don't see it.

then they think they're friends that are wealthier and all this they don't see it. Yeah they they they. They have the advantage of what is being built inside of them. That really helps them because I think the disadvantage.

by the way, I've changed my tune on this 10 years ago. I didn't have as thoughtful of a thought on this I Know unlimited kids that have wealth that their parents did a good job and they they had the right DNA And they did a good job. They they weren't entitled, their parents didn't buy them everything. they had jobs even though they didn't have to like even if they flew private like.

they understood that this was a blessing and they grew up very but many people like. It's very hard to be hungry when you're fed. yeah and so you know and then what happens that I never knew growing up and now I have the privy to all this information. Is it it? It creates enormous insecurity in a lot of these kids? Absolutely.

And so you know we're lucky. like and you're lucky that you had to. You know, shovel snow? Well, in La you didn't have to shovel snow, you had a vacuum rugs I grew up in a city outside of La called Palmdale It's like the ghetto desert. so of course snow is and all that.

I Kind of people don't know how the desert works. it was almost like a desert. Farm It was weird. Yeah, we had chickens and geese and and so you feel you feel like that work ethic completely.

Yeah, found the moment I Mean when you're going through it, it sucks. Obviously older and you gone through what you gone through and you're so thankful for it cuz you know it made who you are today. We'll get to more of your both of your stories in a minute. Got to make sure my man here to the left gets in.

Well I'm a Nepo baby. okay no I'm just kidding I'm Dustin Kel and um I'm a artist designer entrepreneur. uh I got into the business um through working at um Athletic basketball companies yep and it was always my dream to kind of design shoes and that was kind of my way in. So then after going to college and getting a job for that I uh I ended up starting my own company.

um and then now I have another company called Trophy Hunting which is basically the um it's a it's a brand about. sorry no worries, nervous, don't be nervous brother. Honestly it's like this is like literally when I say the chillest watch this the the amount of love you're about to get like there might not be a Kinder Community Honestly, it's when when I die. This community will be the thing besides my children will be the thing I'm most proud of.

Like you have to impress no one. Yeah, you don't have to worry about anyone's judgment. definitely not mine. No now you know what it.

ISE tell me this is important I like this. the reason the reason why I get nervous is is really the script. It's like I know who I am I know what I do I'm pretty accomplished and I don't like talking about myself and I think I have a hard time posing that as an answer to something like I'm very good in conversation and talking about what I do and it it does take me a while to warm up but you know I've worked I worked at Nike stood in front of 150 people and had to talk about like what I do and I know about the city and all this I know about you bro and that's where I get kind of rolling but it's it's always funny like I've always had this like fear of of of talking about myself. Now do you think your parents instilled that in you? um as like a good virtue cuz it's a great virtue.

My parents were extremely supportive like almost too supportive but I was I was pretty I I picked up things really easily so I was really good at sports I always made all the allstar teams I played baseball at like a really high level I got a scholarship to go to art school so it's like I had all of these things kind of going for me so it was the challenges that like were tough. so you know starting a business was like my first real challenge where you kind of get to a point where you can't make like your talent just doesn't win for you. It's all the other things, it's speaking in public, it's getting uh, meeting with people, um, telling someone they can't do something? Well, it's all you know to your point. It is your talent.

like do you I understand what you're saying, your creative Talent or your physical Talent or your intellect. You're right. The reason business is so cool is a it's super hard. Almost everybody fails.

This is kids first of all. I know there's a lot more people on uh just want to give a huge shout out I know a lot of you are incredibly generous on Twitch and give out uh gift subs and I know a bunch of you are coming over right now from text and from my other platforms. So if you're a first timer listening in, please, uh, say what's up and say you're a first- timer and tell me where you came from. but back to you brother like you know.

What's interesting is it is your talent to your point. The last thing you said, having the ability to deliver cander to employees where it doesn't scare them or upset them is the most important trait of a leader. Mhm. Yeah, right.

It's hard for all of us. we've all gone through that right number two. like talking about yourself or it that's called PR that's called awareness. It's called branding like I Get it? Like you know what happens after being a superstar in big organization versus being in the front is you're not sitting on the shoulders of 50 years of good work from Nike right? I Remind all my friends that leave these big.

You know my agency works with big companies and a lot of times they think about jumping to the real world as I tell them and they're like I'm GNA do this. look what I've done at you know I'll use an example of somebody we don't work with. look what I've done at BMW I'm like I'm like I'm gonna do this I'm like real quick. you're standing on a 100 years of good work by BMW The to have play a factor.

It is the factor. Now it takes skill to navigate a big you know you got to know politics and like you got to get done in a big organization. It's a different skill. The problem in what we're all doing is it's you and the bear.

The market is the bear like there's no hiding no and also you don't even for in my case. I don't even have a team you know I'm growing my team that that is the other thing. How you know that you need someone that knows something that you don't know how you hire them. It's right, it's not right.

You can follow is like everything. Yeah, it's it's And the scariest part is when you say it's different, it's just different at this moment for every one of us we. we started at zero when I started this company. the man standing right behind you Mike Boyd was a college friend of my brother AJ's he he literally he literally slept in the office.

this is how ghetto we were and we didn't pay for that office. we Bartered it because I didn't have money to pay for an office and so like you know, everything's there's. not a company we know that didn't start at zero. Apple started in a shed, it started in a shed.

Let me say it one more time. for all the kids that are listening and everybody listening at home in a podcast. Apple you know that3 trillion doll Company Steve and Steve started the company in a garage in California They just did. It's just the way it is and so that's remarkable.

But you're right that Talent is a different game and it's a different Talent it is and that's why you know like I also working at bigger companies, it's like I learned that I I felt like I knew what I wanted to do and I was having a hard like not having a hard time I was I didn't enjoy having to explain why you wanted to do something I like doing the actual work. So that's kind of like why I moved to doing it on my own or with with friends and partners along the way cuz it's it's really about working with friends doing something that we love having the freedom to do it when where wherever. Yeah, instead of going to meetings that are about nothing exactly Yeah. and it's like, you know it's great.

It's like a highlight reel of um, like Support, but for the most part it's like I enjoy doing the actual work I Love it! Quick shout out to everybody on Twitch I See a lot of you coming on? Please make sure you sub up. and also for all you, uh, generous ones out there. Oh, did Corso gift five people a sub? Is that what Corso did up? there? is that the rules of that course? So if you did I love you for that. All right.

What's the biggest challenge right now in your life, professionally or personally that you're willing to share? Because I think one thing that I spent a lot of time on is people see us in our current state Mhm and we all were in different states and you know they just think this is super great and yet I know all three of you, me included. all four of us have plenty of that we're wored about. That sucks. that's really tough so just to get on the V vulnerability train for a second if I asked you.

Obviously this is a very public setting so you may not go to the actual number one thing which I think is incredibly appropriate But whichever one you're closest to that you're willing to share on what's the thing that's most challenging right now. Please for me, the more challenge is like I'm a mom and how old is two two years old so my office is in the house? oh that's fun! So I I I love you know I I have working with him my my biggest challenge is like I have the company I also do modeling yes of course I have my husband and everything so all that how but he should be like fourth right? he's like a distant forth he is. but I got a trouble with him I gotta go with him and I'm like you're not coming I'm like no I have this I have this meeting I got a travel that I have that event of the brand Rio like everything so for me is I wake up 6:00 a.m. and my day is 9:00 p.m.

because I work also with Australia and it's not ending at 6:00 p.m. Start my meetings in Australia how do you recharge walking Love that every day yeah every day for me I walk in my I start and I know myself I can be mad I can be feeling like but after my 30 minutes walking I'm in another person do you bre do you do breath work while you're walking I walk that fast that I'm like yeah mhm I don't know with the baby or solo um I try to go solo my moment as you should So I always put Rio here Rio goes to preschool because I want him to be with kids here in New York you have an apartment y you don't interact every day with kids so I put him he love that he says like Mom love you see you independent and that are my three hours. You crushed those three. yeah that 3 hour.

So for you it's balancing the the little guy, the business, the husband and your and your career as a model and spokesperson exactly. That is one thing and my other thing is like a grow so fast. So my other thing is like I was saying I need to hire people and I I don't know like we we should. By the way, after this podcast we should talk I know so many people I just mentioned them these people in Cpg brands at the biggest companies in the world.

a lot of them are ready for next I met with somebody yesterday I'm going to introduce you to that I liked a lot like yeah I'll help you like you know I was like I came here and also want to listen to you. that's why I'm like I want to like, listen, learn I'm learning here. We're all learning my man. What's the toughest thing right now? Real talk I can kind of relate to you which is like um, kind of like the struggle of like kind of balancing all these different things that we have in our life.

and I'm sure it's even harder with a kid like that's like adding a whole another. Factor Yeah because the love you have for them is like different. like like. but what people don't realize that don't have businesses is for entrepreneurs that own a buiness business.

it's the fifth kid. it's the second kid. It's a kid. Yeah, a business is a kid.

It really is. You really love it like that. when you're a pure bread entrepreneur, you love it. you do.

You don't want it to get hurt, you don't want it to die, you don't like, you really care for it like that. That's true. And then um, with my businesses I feel like in a way, those are my kids right now you know. And it's like if I neglect one, the other one doesn't get the attention it deserves and um, that's kind of been a struggle with me.

Is that like with like the two main businesses in my life, both have been brought a lot of success into my life and I feel like the more I focus on one like it takes away from the other. So I kind of like I'm who do you think? Who's the judge of that though? it's you know when I hear that? Yeah bro, that's why I'm jumping on this I want to help you and I'm hoping this helps other people online. By the way, I heard somebody just say I feel like Gary Vibes best when he's on other people's podcast I agree with that I I enjoy more Q&A but I'll do the best I can here so I apologize um wow I don't think it was coming from a bad place but I caught it late but but I actually agree with it so I just wanted to give love cuz I want to keep the chat engaged. By the way, if you're listening on the podcast, go to Gary Ve.com Twitch.

We are live streaming on Twitch all of the podcast with friends in real time so you can be part of the show and two I don't know if some of you have noticed I'm starting to just live stream on Twitch me sitting in the office and working all day which has been a wild ASMR like people working along with me sometimes I am mute and talk so for everybody who's listening, if you want to work with me, me during the day work along with me start checking out Twitch. Make sure you subscribe brother I Got to say something to you that I Hope helps all three of you but more importantly helps everybody listening. The only per people when they ask me like Gary How do you? How do you deal with work life balance? Who's the judge and jury of work? Life balance you? What Are we going to look at each other's what? What are we looking at each other's calendars and being like you're like of course we're all worried about one day getting older and having our kids say you didn't spend enough time with me You're like oh that's like the scariest or or your friend saying like yo, what the like none of us want to Big Time our friends right? That's a thing to worry. especially when you're younger.

like when you're really focused on your your friends are like yo, let's go out You're like I'm on my yeah and like oh now you're on your you don't Especially when you come from the dirt and seem like all four us like you know, like this, no one wants to be a sellout and then there's there's always your parents, your siblings like it's It's a big stress for me that I play sympatico with my family. Everyone knows I'm about them and I'm always available. but I stress and like do they feel like I'm attached enough because I'm moving yeah and like I worry about that you know and like like like but I always am reminded and I I talk to myself everything I talk about in my content or in this is I talk to myself about and so like you're the judge and the jury when you when you have when you're married, there's another person involved in that. Then your kids become involved in that, your family, your friends.

but that's solvable stunningly with communication. And then I think the other thing is like creating some random things that work like always doing a first Tuesday of every month dinner with 12 people and mixing it if you're the most extreme busy and I'm in that camp. Yeah, things like having a standing reservation for eight the second Tuesday of every month or if you travel a lot like I do just like booking it 30 days out to the best of your ability and inviting friends, family, acquaintances, work, friends, and just like, you can hack it. yeah it's just like working out or skin regimen like there's a way to make your time management better.

I'll give you one. Most of my meetings are 15 minutes. Almost everyone I know has 1 hour meetings that are complete. Yeah, it's a 17-minute meeting, but you make it an hour.

but if you don't have time, make more 15minute meetings. But most of all that's tactical. Macro, Bro, don't judge yourself. Yeah I think that's what I'm pretty bad on exactly.

That's my struggle Youo no. I I I agree 100% with that because I think one of the things that I'm lucky to myself now that I figured that out the work life balance because it is personal and I I figured out that you know I like having my hands in multiple things so I'm just aware of that. So I I draw all the time and do art just for me and don't get commissioned out or anything so no one could tell me what to do. I'm still entrepreneur and I and I still have to hustle but I also still have a studio where I work with Nike and Puma and I'm still like in the corporate world you got clients and doing your own thing exactly.

So I'm still in the world. That's a cool approach. So I have these three pillars that I'm always constantly doing. it was the first.

CU I know that's complete fulfillment for me and then I'm You know the the hardest part for me is is is really this is the for especially for my brand. like my brand me and then your out there and trophy hunting my brand is the Pr side of it is like doing what about what about bringing in somebody we've brought I we've we've tried and we're still in the process. Yeah because I think it's can I give you a good piece advice on this cuz I know you're very well and I think I spent so all of us are paying attention. you know I listen to all of you.

you're all doing kind of similar to me. It's my biggest rength too I talk all the time So people are confused by this. 90% of what I do is listen. It's why I'm always talking I've got so much to observe that that I want to talk about the number one way a guy like you on a brand like yours will win is by spending a lot of time on social media and seeing a young kid doing something cool yeah and then dming her, him being like yo I with this and then them hitting you up and them viewing you as the it's all just steps.

Yeah so like you you usually the mistake that is made is you go for something that's too professional. Yeah, they have the resume or you they used to work with Nike or they with you know they did a thing for spray ground that you but they were a team of 80. No no, you need a Scrapper right? Yeah, Yeah, we need someone to call Hyp Beast and tell them to put our on. But first, but first, you need a kid who's the 17-year-old Us? yeah or the 22-year-old US who even knows the upand cominging best writer at H High Beast like she and he lives it, you're either of the culture or you're not Whatever culture that is not when I say culture obviously that's now more urban hip-hop, but I'm talking about any culture, sports, music, cooking like you're like I'll use I'll make this even more prominent.

You're either knowledgeable like me with wine I grew up in wine I worked in it from 14 to 34 From 14 to 34 from 16 to 34 I Knew everything I knew every writer I knew every wine I knew everything I now know an unbelievable amount of about wine I'm passionate about it I Keep up on it I Don't know. Compared to the 30-year-old me, the 30-year-old me knew everything and you. This will make sense to all of you. Once you're at of something, you're out of it.

If you go out to the hottest clubs in New York and La and Vegas every night you know everything that's happening. You take a step away and you come back six months later and everything's different, right? Whatever it is, Boy, you know this. You're an Anr like you, You, you know I know you well enough to know like there's some six months when you know everything and there's some six months when you're busy with some with your family or you got that you're doing for me or we got brown, fortunate or whatever it is and you're like it's just the way it is. What you need to do is find the kid that really know the the kid that's like cool I'll get you Hype beast.

But do you know about Street street and you're like what the is Street Street and it's the next hype Beast right? That's who you need cuz everyone else is going to be for you that I was about to tell you like H you have so much more No, no no yeah I was I I know what you're saying I know what you're saying. All right, let's get a question. Couple things. Let me answer the question that the kid had CU I was excited about this that was in the chat somebody said tra I see it Trav C21 on Twitch says how can I get financial help building an app while I live paycheck to paycheck Trav It's almost impossible.

Most people don't get funded. It's very hard. There's a lot of issues with it, but right now money is expensive. Even the people that go to Stanford are having a harder time raising.

Capital because people with money are getting 5% interest on their money. why are they going to risk it on some startup? money got valuable. It's the hardest time to get money right now. but Trav Let me tell you why I picked your question.

We are moments away I Want everyone to hear this. We are moments away from all of us building apps in one hour using AI The fact that all of us are going to be able to build websites and apps using AI in a year is bananas. That's how much AI is advancing it will program applications like I don't want to jump to the biggest hyperbole I'm not educated enough to know that we're really there within the next 24 months that you can build a like a really solid iPhone app in like an hour. but it's not as far away as people think and I would say for all of you with the million other things that you have to be focused on for your business, this thing that's emerging called AI is like a real beast and so um, it's going to be.

It's going to be pretty exciting and I see everyone reacting to it. It's going to be a big deal. It's going to change the world the way the internet did. and I hope everyone is actually now that we're going into the holidays I Hope everyone during the holidays you know how the holidays are.

There's downtime along with all the stuff you have to do. Maybe one night when you're drinking some cocoa or some tequila. like maybe maybe you spend two three hours and start googling getting educated about AI listening to a podcast, watch a YouTube show. It's time nobody in this community or at this table can go into 2024 and not know anything about AI It's to here so something to keep in mind as well for all of us.

All right let's grab a pack of cards. These are my be friends. This is my Pokemon meets Marvel universe that I launched in Nft form another new technology but also now in physical form I Want? Here's how we're playing the friends card game. You're going to open this pack and I need you to look at all three, four, all four characters and pick the character that most speaks to you and most represents you.

Okay I got mine. Good ladies. First, what do you got I Just you TR The Malti because of the way it phys, the way it looks or because of who the character is. No I don't know.

Get the different one I Feel the car is different. Yes, it's a rare card that's a valuable card. You pull the best card out of all of us so that's good. I All right, what do you got my friend? You locked in? Oh I got the penguin.

Why? um I I just resonated with the penguin I don't know I just think they're they're I think that's A by the way I think it's a puffin. oh it's A the name. Is it a puffin? oh it's a oh it is a puffin. Okay well this thing the bird I Buffin in versus visual list.

Respect my man I picked uh Macro Micro. just cuz that's how I kind of work I'm always like looking afar but then I like being in the details at the same time. it's funny. This is one of my favorite.

like weird characters like it's not super popular. we have 283. it's a weird name. the character is called macro micro.

it's 2 be's but it's how I work too I think I think people that win I I did a k Swiss sneaker collaboration and I called the clouds and Dirt I Think the people that are in the clouds dreaming ambition right and can equally stay in the dirt. Humble work ethic still in it like we talked about. That's why I made M Micro Macro I Think you know a lot of this is I'm going to make children's books and things of that nature and I think some people just dream and are delusional and don't put in the work and I think a lot of other people just work and are. And actually my biggest fear right now in the world is like people don't dream.

They've believed all the negativity in the world. They're like this whole thing that's going on now with Gen Z kids where they're trying to tell these Gen Z kids that they can't be more successful than their parents. We're going to be the first generation, not as success. It's it's terrible propaganda.

It's terrible propaganda. You're telling a generation of kids and a lot of them believe it and it's devastating to me. Yeah, a lot. just see through the though too.

Yeah, yeah they do and those are the ones who are going to win. The problem is more, don't right? Yeah, that's what I spend my time looking at analyzing scaled human behavior more. Don't more? Do think that it's over like like as like I love this whole meme of like like Gen Z telling Boomers you up the world, go and read a history book and see what Boomers said to their grandparents right? The do you think Boomers grew up with two Wars Global backto back World wars? Insane. Yeah.

as if there's just too much negativity in the world and they've got us fighting over everything. As if religion, race, and gender was not enough to divide us. Now they're teaching the kids that we have to divide on Generations Gen Z versus Millennials and Millennials versus Boomers like we keep stacking the table with more things to not love each other versus just looking at each other and saying we're all team human I love you The Ogs were always always the most inspirational though for me at least like they were always the people that were like even though I didn't do it like here's a pathway or here's stuff that you can know about. it's all just exposure.

Experience this. This is mainstream media loving to use like analytics to tell kids that they can't be as wealthy as their parents. which is ludicrous. Do you know many 20-year-olds make more money than their parents do right now? because of the world.

There's Un we've In fact, it's the Reversed Never in the history of time could teenagers make more money than their parents, but because of the way the internet works there are. Let me say, nice and slow for everyone. millions of teenagers around the world who make way more money than their parents because they made money on the internet being an influencer or selling or D so like they're getting sold this yeah and meanwhile the reality is the ones that don't succumb to the are actually trans like transcending success for youth that we've never seen before please I feel like for me it's the new era I don't know like I think I think the history you know I always used to ask my grandma and everything all the history in Argentina how everything was changing and I feel like before when you didn't used to have you know like the TV or didn't used to have the cover everything was changing but when they era make the change fast now I feel like we are all learning and everything is going fast so of course the teenager getting faster like even the Tik Tok everything I feel like it's something like we afraid but also if you think our kids me thinking with Rio he's two years old and sometimes I'm like afraid because yeah like the new technology you know he don't need to do the homework nothing but also if he don't really understand that he will never you know go to the Future and get in better and better so how you balance that how you don't lose you know the part of the floor but also you know keep the reality you need to jump in that train. I Couldn't agree with you more the you said the most important word.

balance. We are living in the greatest era of not balance. It's all extremism. Everyone is fighting from left to right on these things and they think by going further they're going to bring the other people over.

but what we're doing is going further apart. parents. You said another thing. parents are afraid.

They love these little ones so much they're afraid and the world is selling. Fear? Yeah, every kid used to be outside 40 years ago and then the news covered kidnapping 24/7 and then everybody put their kids inside. Yeah! I Walk to school in kindergarten of me too. I Walk to school in kindergarten grew up outside like like you know and so like you're absolutely right.

Balance is the key. The problem is, we are in an era right now where we are the furthest thing from balance. I Also think people need I Maybe they're teaching this at school, but it's like the critical thinking. It's just like problems solving.

I Feel like is at a low where it's like people are learning very distinct skills and they know how to do one thing. but they don't know how to like problem solve or do anything. So I'm seeing a lot of especially younger people who are getting more traction and being a little bit more uh, successful and fast-paced because they're able to like problem solve and not just be like oh I don't know how to do that so I Googled it didn't work YouTube didn't show anything so I guess it's wrong I'll do it the other way and it's just like we didn't have that. We had to figure it out and it's just cuz you wanted to do that if I had this technology.

oh my God separation that is my thing. like you know like I always as a mom we know the dads really think on the kids but the mom sorry but are the moms and we always think and for me it's like I get that part but also I feel like they can even learn more so again how to balance because now they can fix with the phone yeah of course and it's like easy for them but they can learn more so where they it I feel like it's a new well well it's a new era because we were all taught to memorize information. Information is worthless. It's at our fingertips and with AI even the ability to process the information is about to become worthless.

My biggest thing is if we could just get all the moms and dads around the world to focus on building a kid's self-esteem that is going to be the game. The game is not going to be like get good grades good grades you? How many people we're all grown now. What happened with all our valedictorians? What happened to all the kids you grew up with that had great grades? Was that A My thing that was always confusing to me is there are plenty valedictorians and people that got good grades that had great lives and this the problem was. there was also just as many that didn't So getting good grades was not a direct correlation to happiness or financial success to me.

Like what? what like we've got to get the conversation going to self-esteem. The issue right now is most kids are insecure. Well my mom is a teacher. She says that the biggest problem in school was like with phone yes with air drop and everything.

they used to send pictures, how went vital and how much they struggled the kids with problems. Yeah, that was something that my mom always says so I agree with you with the self-esteem but also to be present something like more than selfesteem with that are like me I work so hard. but when I'm with my kid I'm present I'm analyzing him yeah for sure I will tell you this though to your point a lot of kids say to me this is a very common DM I'll get from a 15-year-old Gary What do I do here My parents keep yelling me to be present Meanwhile, they're not present like they're all talking like be present. Be respectful and every time I try to talk to them they're on their phone right? The Hypocrisy: like I've literally been in my own home with other parents who are yelling at me that technology is bad cuz I'm in the business and then giving their then their kid comes.

but we're having a good time drinking wine and they give their kid the iPad so they hush away. like literally they can't even see the hypocrisy. They're literally actively having a conversation with me. that technology is Bad The kid comes over, they're having a good time.

so they give the iPad and go run off. Johnny Go play. Yeah, it's hypocrisy at Scale all day. Yeah, he's the easy way.

look I think I Think the the biggest issue is you know I See exactly? Parents are the least present, some are, some aren't. My big thing is, we've just become incredibly from parents. It makes sense, but the world has become incredibly focused on telling people what to do versus focusing on what they do. It's become a national.

Pastime To point fingers, everybody's got to judge about everybody. What we used to do to celebrities. we now do to everybody. Yeah, at scale everyone's being judged which is why everyone's all up.

It's very true. Anyway, let's switch it to a good note. What are you most excited about before we get out of here? What is like most, got you jazzed as we go into 2024. What are you most excited about? Me so much? First please about mom that I always say that is important thing for me is talking and every day is coming with something new.

So funny. Yeah three three is like a different like two to three is like yeah it's going to be awesome for you that for me also in the company we like we really have huge retailers in Australia but now we getting here in us too so that would how do people find the company? let's make sure we do that. Oh yeah yeah Cowder superf food you can find and in us I sells in the website Revol Aan Airan is so that is like the mecca of Los Angeles now it is. Do you know that people literally I know people that literally go to LA to do business just so they can go to Airwan like literally actually and think the smoy that is like $49 I'll say it they sell $ 49 dollar smoothies and people are lined up Clean Eating and they have Balenciaga collaborations and stuff now Clean Eating! This is one of the biggest movements in like like clean eating is just going to be outrageous.

Like all the biggest brands in the world in 20 years people are going to be like what the what are these Brands they're all building right now. It's about ingredients not calories and it's going to be a big deal. Same with skincare. Yeah well we have inest double beauty that is the colash and the Honic acid.

and but also my I say my hu. like my biggest you know retail in Australia because in Australia it's already like that. it's normal. Yeah, if I take like yonic acid in powder for them, it's normal.

Yeah different. Trends in different places makes sense. It's coming my man. um just excited.

How do they find the brand cuz I I see a lot of people rocking with what you're what you're rocking with right now I Saw a lot of comments early on. they want to know where to get on my Instagram like Marvin X Douglas that's like my fine Jew like I post most of my fine jewelry work on there and then I'm also working on a clothing line right now. Um, it's kind of like a jewelry meets clothing. Um, it's for the person that can't really accessorize themselves.

It kind of comes accessorized already. So are you wear? Is that what you're wearing? Like this hat was something I kind of like sewed together. Um this is like a jacket by Stuy but I kind of added pins so it's funny. you could you could grab it, it's right in front of you.

you see that devil pin I was yeah, they were showing me earlier and I was like this is amazing. It's funny that you're here you know. Pinned out Yeah because I Collected everything Comic books, trading cards I collected everything but pins was not something I collected but I Loved making videos on the internet to show people how to make money at garage sales and one of the things I did very well with always was Olympic pins like you go to garage so you buy just a bunch of Olympic pins for like 10 bucks and you could sell them individually for like 200 bucks. So when we did be friends because there's a Disney element and Disney is very big in pins, we did pins and they've been huge Like for everybody who's on right now, go to eBay type in Vriends pins.

you'll be shocked at completed sales, it's become a whole thing and I'm and because of that I'm now more educated on what you're doing and what other people doing I feel like it's a very obvious growth in as Fashions continues to be a currency of our Society I think what you're doing is very real and and going to be a much bigger macro Trend over the next decade. Yeah the yeah, the collection Factor definitely plays a part like um I mean even with like the cards like I grew up playing Pokemon and one of the thing they do in Pokemon is collect badges which are pins so it's like you know there's that factor that gives you like the want and like the need of something like that. So you're you're You're making clothing where the pins are Incorporated already? Yes, it's kind of like a a more affordable version of my jewelry line too. since my fine jewelry is like a specific price point, where does that? What price point is that usually? um I would say ring start about like 4,000 go up from there and I kind of wanted to make something that was a bit more accessible without kind of like tainting the name of Marvin Douglas you know and that like it's hard way the way want up the brand.

Yeah so then um, Father of Pearl is my. it's like a play on Mother of Pearl the material. but Father of Pearl is my clothing brand that I'm working on with like clothing accessories. and like I said for the person that doesn't know how to accessorize himself, it kind of comes with accessories already on it so it kind of does the work for you.

Um and it's kind of like like I'm I'm just excited about that. I'm excited about dropping that project and my vision for it is like you know there's these like um destinations like Monaco and like these rich like you know, south of France like Italy like um that have always been looked at as like these like destination you know kind of places for like vacation Y and El Salvador like where I'm from. it's like never been looked at as that so it's kind of like me imagining what El Salvador Like what. the clothing in El Salvador would look like if that was a destination.

like one of those Rich destinations. That's cool bro. I Like that you good for you I Love that. Thanks my man, That's cool.

Yeah I'm I'm just looking forward to all of the momentum that that's kind of been built over the last 18 months for the brand trophy hunting. Um, it seems like it's really popping. Yeah, no. I see I see a lot of cool people like rocking? Yeah, no we have.

We have a really good following. Um, the the clothing is amazing in person. so our goal next year is to get it in front of people. So we just did a pop-up shop with NE and Marcus.

We're going to do another one um, in January or February and then kind of move into a small piece of retail and then hopefully open up our own stores for you. But yeah. Final question: Let me look yeah. Final Question: Social Media Content I Believe social media content is the primary variable of all three of your businesses.

Yeah, besides you, the human and who you as you operate. but from a marketing standpoint, where are you at with the with social media content? How's it going? Let's go. We'll go backwards. We'll end with ladies this time.

Um, how's it going for you Or the brand? Which platforms are working? What's an enigma? What would you like to be better at? What's the state of the Union of your organic social media which is a deep passion of mine? I I struggle with the organic side. Uh, just because number one, a lot of the stuff that I work on is top secret and I can't show anything for 18 months out. So like if we do something with Rihanna I can't show you what it is I can just say it or whatever. So I struggle with like that and then um I'm just a perfectionist too.

So it's like I like curated things to look nice. So I I kind of overwhelm myself and just end up like not doing anything. Yeah I mean I it's funny. My team knows where I sit on perfectionism I always believe I always believe that perfectionism is slang for in security I think people beat them.

This goes back to beating yourself up. it's like like look clearly all three of you have like taste and all that I get that it's a scill like anything else. That being said, when you're building a business, if if you're not talking, it's not happening right? So you know if you're not posting, it's not happening and it's You have to remember it's inherently selfish to only judge based on your opinion even though you're the lead dog. There's many things I put out into the world that I'm not sure, but by putting it out in the world I'm learning I may be potentially helping someone with that might be inspired like there's things that you've killed that might have been the piece of content that inspired a young kid to start their thing.

Totally so I Think sometimes we think too selfishly about our content and if we thought more selflessly and think about who's on the other end. Yeah, all of a sudden it doesn't have to be perfect because you realize this might. you were inspired by people putting out right. So something to think about.

my man. Um, with social media it's kind of like it's it's a struggle for me. Um I think the consistency in it. Like as far as like posting all the time that you know I have like things available for sale.

Um well with the business I think that's where. Yeah, like the consistency of like posting that I even have stuff for sale. What about posting stuff that's not for sale? Um or what about posting an image of the individual before it's a pin? Yeah, so that in general I feel like my consistency is like doing that like I capture it I just don't post it. Why? I that's that's can I give you an Insight have because I don't think you could think I believe.

One of the biggest reasons someone like you may not post it is you believe it might not do well. And I think one of the biggest things that I'm trying to teach entrepreneurs and friends to think about is their insecurity of the algorithm. So like you people aren't posting because they're worried that it's going to get few views and that may look bad on them. Yeah, yeah.

one of the things I would love for platforms to do that doesn't bother me though. Respect everyone's different by the way. I'm not sure I'm right I'm fishing here. Mine's more for mine, more for like sales, not like the likes.

It's like these are like thousands of dollar pieces, you know. and it's like I What about? what about thinking that 90% of what you post shouldn't be about sales? So that's that's the thing too. Yeah, that's that's a good perspective on it. Make that change.

That's one of the reasons why I don't post all the time too though is cuz I don't like being sales or talk about product. see I hate that I Here's a beer. Easy ready. There's an iconic book written called Jab Jab Jab right Hook.

It means give, give, give, and occasionally ask. Yeah, that's how you should think about your social give. It doesn't have to be. Here's a beer.

It could be story time with this beer. Hey designers, let me tell you about my first month by myself. I Sold nothing. It sucked.

Do you know how much value that could be for someone who looks up to you too. You're being selfish? No, that's good. I I've been doing that on threads lately. the is that about you? Feel safe there I don't know you feel see I think Instagram to me has always just been like pictures and like no no no I think you no I'll tell you what is you're putting Instagram on a pedestal.

Yeah, you're treating it like a Museum I saw something you did recently with like where you spoke about Facebook too and like that one. really like me I'm It's just there's so many people that still use it Facebook's on fire and I don't use itm because of my dad. Yeah literally it's all the it's It's because millions of people are by the way my fastest growing. My team will tell you my fastest growing demo on Facebook is 21 to 30.

It's because it's a feed. Wow and people are just happen to be on there like it's just the people are just not thinking enough. Anyway, Social: I'm learning I'm like okay my fav I don't have I'm like no me really I'm really practiced so I I have a team that helped me on that because for me I leave my phone like that and I'm like you know, working and other things. So and I'm like I say I'm not really artist so I can admire both of them.

How they create you know how you can create things Me: I'm like okay post that you know it's easy I Look I think some of the best content on the Internet is M Preneurs I Promise you it is a powerful subject matter. It's something you need to consider. True inspires a lot of people. It's a real deal.

Like it's super real. like there's an ungodly amount of women. There are hundreds of millions of women out there who are incredibly on fire professionally, but also Aspire and dreamed and love being a mom. and and I think it is incredibly hard for dads and dudes to balance life.

but when you have a child come out of you, there is a different relationship. It's just the way it is. and I think it's one of the most important subject matters. and I think you can do a lot of good by talking about your the ups and the downs.

I Just think it's compelling content I think you can help people really do yeah know and I feel like it's a good moment that I admire when wom's you know, like are entrepreneur and try to grow because I know how it is I know like yeah, you're living it like exactly like okay, yeah, like it's real here I'm giving the food but also I'm having a meeting and I'm changing and I'm going to the airport and of course the mom fly with the kid to the airport course. The flights are sometimes not easy and you arrive directly to the meeting or the modeling. So all of that but I Love my life. Even if you don't have kid and you're a woman, it's hard.

Everything's hard. and by the way, something that's finally coming up. I'm glad dudes are being more vulnerable too. Like news alert, it's hard being a human, but not when you simplify it back to loving life.

The way to love life is to simplify it. Me: I come back from I was working in Aspen I arrived like Saturday 11:00 p.m. and Sunday morning I went to the pool with Rio and after to the ice cream Museum and I forget about everything I was laughing so much enjoying it with him like Monday AO he goes to pretty school like got a rhym the Rhythm thank you for being on you three twitch Thank you for watching. Keep it on for a second.

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