Yeah I mean look at the end of the day, humans are affected by other humans. What? I'm just always trying to think about is like can I say one sentence a different way that makes people realize like nothing good comes of not doing something you want to do because you're worried about what somebody's gonna say. It just doesn't work that way. you know? Yeah and I think that's you know I don't for you I don't think there's one piece of content I think was Final just like for me, it's just like it.

like you know it's been long enough and I actually you know if I have to say it was one thing, it's it's you know when I ask myself, you know when you're 80, when you're 90, are you gonna like are you gonna wish you did it or not right? And are you gonna? Whether it's your mom, your dad, your brother, a former relationship, your best friend, or or just anybody. Do you think at 80 or 90, you're going to be happy that you didn't do something because of their opinion versus not doing something that was in your stomach? Yeah, and you know, like right now, sorry, what am I trying to say good because what's good about having time? Yeah, yeah. speaking of that, I I was surprised I even got like I was telling Sid about this. you know he's like why'd you get this one I was like honestly like there's a couple reasons you know I want to help see behind the scenes the brand stuff but it was a good deal like I agree like it wasn't cheap but I said I can't remember exact price but like 90 minutes plus the five days I was surprised it even got so I wasn't planning to get this one I get it, you know I agree like like I'm very comfortable with not to mention the V content like like the like I'm really excited about this project long term and like there were some really interesting Arbitrage a lot of times I build things for younger me I almost think a lot of times Garyvee is the person I wish existed for me when I was in high in junior high high school it would have really helped me like I had a lot of things that took longer than they could have had I grew up in this era and had a resource like this and then like this for example: oh my God if this existed when I first started Vayner and I could have had a five-day thing and gotten access to whomever she or he was that I admired is doing something similar that would have been a tremendous return on my mommy.

No for sure. Um, but yeah going back to while standing so you know I'm doing work three uh, just content. just that you know I Love the web 3 space I don't know exactly you know I do see me? you know coming up with a service or a product one day. but I don't know what which direction you know D5 gaming stuff, something stuff like that.

but I think this is a good way just to expose myself to all of it, right? you know? I Just actually the podcast today will be my second episode only for first guests that I just did the intro episode last week. you know, just letting you know let people know that's awesome. So uh, you know it's a big. it's a big shift for me, but it's it's something.

Yeah I want to meet your 90 I'll look back and I have wanted to be able to say I tried it because while I think that I'm going to enjoy it once I you know I'm getting more and more comfortable. The truth is, you know, unless you're gonna get something a shot, maybe you know I was talking to Dustin saying he tried the vlogging thing. it wasn't for him. Yeah, right.

but he didn't know until he tried it right? Yeah, that's exactly right you can't. You don't know that your favorite food is a baked potato until you actually eat it. You know? And people eliminate oysters and caviar and foie gras and all these you know, uni and all these you know foods that I love that you know people don't They just like the amount of people that have told me at dinner because I order oysters a lot I'm like would you like some and they're like no I don't like oysters and I'm like have you ever had one I would say three out of four have never had it I was just gonna say I didn't like it yeah there's a lot of good oysters from Canada by the way, um you know it's really real. it's the thought of I understand like like you know I've had some like pretty weird conversations of why people don't like oysters.

they're like the consistency, the look, it all makes sense but it all goes down to the same thing which is like are you fearful to try something or are you Fearless you know I just really admire lack of fear I was watching uh, some kids play basketball yesterday and there's one kid. Two teams were a big mismatch but this one kid like just wasn't scared and I admire that I really it's funny that I caught my attention while I was watching something like it's just awesome I'm pumped that you're at such a young age that you're starting to like really chip away at it. Yeah, you know I can look back and say like oh no because I want to do this for like you know 28 now I got last six years really you know but I was never saying I used to be a nurse and stuff like that and I'm working at other projects and stuff for other people but I said you know I could look back and say like you know I've wasted time or say you know for All This Time ahead of me, right? So it's such a little piece. I mean I You know when you're 28, six years is a ton 20.

You know it's a ton. It's over 20 percent so it feels like a ton just like I tell a lot of people like so obviously you know this because you know my content I Talk so much about patience and everyone loves to make fun of me. Like my favorite comments by far on social media is like get review rolls up on a 90 year old and says how old are you they say 90 and he says you got and I laugh but like you know it's funny I get it when you're 12. a year seems like an eternity.

You're like next year right when you're 47 years are flying I talk. You know and it's just how the human brain works. So of course when you're 28 six years like whoa, it's 20 of your time. like you know, like you felt it.

but it's nothing. It's nothing and like it's great. especially when you know a lot of people don't get to this place until 40, 50, 60. to be, that's why I'm so passionate about making the content I make if I can get 13 to 33 year olds to understand they haven't started.

And regardless of anything that's happened, there's actually a fresh restart and you can fully like. You could be miserable and have like and die at 92 with like a profoundly happy life because 60 years more in front of you is just 60 years more in front of you I just really wish people believed it and so like what now Like what do you like when you go back to analyzing things like in dream state hypothesis when you were like okay I'm gonna be here for you know a week you know, kind of like did you go into like I hope I leave with like a secret weapon to make your content go viral yeah a relationship with Gary that you can relate like you know what I mean like I'm curious you know of course right? of course another relationship with you. hopefully you know we also I don't know if you know on the the garage sale yes I'm looking forward to that. So that's gonna be just a real like yeah almost you? Your point.

like you can't spend that much as long as I'm not a piece of you can't spend that much time with a human and not have something you know but but no and then like just you know, little connections like that's something I've been terrible at you know a lot. I've kind of you talk about fear like I've really just found my comfort zone last five six years and just not really explored out a bit. That means like you know I wasn't I haven't been networking and stuff like that. um kind of just been like a Hermit yeah right.

but on all, well first of all, Kovid was a big chunk so that like added to the convenience of being a Hermit yeah that was like that was like two, three, two and a half a year you know. but like like I I think about that a lot. Like all of us even, you know I am the most extroverted most Network like most rely on other humans for my energy and like I'm like out of practice a little bit like like I'm like I don't want to be out from eight to midnight doing like things like I'm like like it's it's you have to like almost restart in some ways. but no it's good friendships you know, real like intimate relationships, dating business Network Like all humans get so much value out of other humans I think a lot about forced forced perspective like this is why I'm actually really trying to get like like it shouldn't take a traumatic experience to have you know we do so many things for our bodies.

Thank God like look 40 years ago nobody was going to the gym like actually nobody. so you know like when I think about that. this is what I look like at 47 years old. like what I would have looked like if I was born 50 years earlier like left to my Laurels I'd be 215 that could be a mess.

Well I think you started. you know I'm trying to think back all the content but you started taking your health more seriously in your 30s. yeah late 30s, 38 and a half I always laugh because I was it was on a plane where I was like just thinking and I was like you know things are going well like life's gonna be good like this is the vulnerability like I could die from a heart attack at 63. you know I was like I'm not I know that I'm not doing the right things and here I am running around the world telling people like you're doing this wrong in business and I'm like well you want like you know you want your business to be a million dollars after 19 days.

that's why you're failing. Same with me like I didn't I was too logical to know that 19 days in the gym would fix it I just didn't want to put in the work it doesn't come now you know the big I would tell you my own Journey on health and wellness is why I have confidence in people's journey in business nobody I'm nine I'm now nine years into this journey and there's not a single morning I wake up and want to do it. Not one you know like it's funny I've been playing some basketball lately I played again this morning I played yesterday and today yesterday was a Sunday and I woke up at 5 30 in the morning to play basketball and it's interesting because that I love. but like I logically know at 47 it's hard to play basketball like it's after 40.

It's a very dangerous sport. Yeah I mean it's not even about the game, it's about like Acl's like MCL like you're so prone in basketball. um but it's um, but I love it I'll wake up at 5 30 for it whereas like go and do like a chest day or cardi like I like those I've kind of like it but like it still comes so not natural so you know yeah. I I think a lot about that and I think about business I think about health and wellness.

but lately I've been thinking more about perspective practice like we do a lot of practice to. like be healthy, eat well, go to the gym. We do a lot of business coaches this I wonder if like I always think about like what do none of us doing right now? That's gonna be a thing in 50 years I think perspective practice like this. maybe because you're close to my content like I Why I tell people like go and go and visit a retirement home like charity work like right now today, it's easier for me back to like what you said about time.

It's easier today for me to write a check than to go spend a day right? Like, like a kitchen that serves people in need like one of the So this year I've already done more things this year in my personal life visiting friends that have personal situations that require me visiting them to check on them to check in already more in the first 23 days of this year than I did all of last year. Wow, because I decided I used to say well I don't have time to work out and so now I'm like you know I've got to make time to do this and so it's almost like perspective training. I'm doing it to be gracious to provide value for somebody I care about but there's a subconscious part of me that knows that there's also major deposits being put into me. You do leave with tons of gratitude and then you know I'm hoping to scale that to strangers because luckily I'm not in a situation where I have a lot of those in my life.

but you know I think I've really been thinking a lot about that. Like what if once a month 12 times a year you go and go out of your way to be of service with your time because some buddy or some group of people in need that also gives you a real look at you know, a life that you know you're complaining about XYZ and like there's people who are terminally ill I You know I've gotten a point in my career where you know a lot of people are dming me with like Make-a-Wish like scenarios literally this week in my DM I'm so glad I made the video I'm so glad I saw it I'm so glad I made the video and the the friends the guy who was six friend reached out to me and said I was an inspiration for this guy and the gentleman passed and just like like 35 years old you know and it's just like I just struggle worrying about money or reputation though I care way more about my reputation than money or like anything when you just know this is happening every day and things are happening every day. Yeah, that's um. I saw something on Twitter Twitter like it hit me really hard last week or the week before.

there's some guy. like they said, you know, basically like I'm signing off. you know like I guess he was battling with something terminal and then no one knew about it I I didn't even follow the guy I don't know who he was but so I'm signing off you know has been a great you know loving everyone like you know and it's like because I only have like a few days left or something like that and I need to like spend with my family. Yeah it's just like and it bothers me.

It's one of those things that like I think a lot about like fear like you were scared to kiss a girl or guy you were scared to ride a bike I was petrified of swimming I didn't start swimming until I was nine only because my sister started swimming at six and I heard like my mom be like Liz she's swimming and I like was playing knock hockey at the pool club and literally ran and jumped in the pool and tried to make pretend I was swimming at the same time as my sister like thank God for my competitive juices but like I think people fear a lot of things that are mundane in real life and then like they just seem so simple like ever being scared to ride a bike or or kiss someone or have sex or you know swim or ride a bike like they become so standard and I think a lot about that lately. First time last five years of the reverse which is like you can only start being appreciative or grateful when something bad happens and we have to find a way to change that. Yeah I think I'm so happy because that's not what's happening for me I actually wake up on a gloomy Monday like this and being like boom another day that nothing atrocious happened. Let's go I really believe that and it gets really in I think it's why I have such a capacity to do so many things.

It's not because I have like more energy though I have high energy. It's not that I'm like so much more talented I have put in the Reps and have the talent. it's that I'm just not scared and so that doesn't drag me down. It's tough to do podcasting or scared of it.

Yeah and that's for me. You know like if you talk about like I look back I think I've heard you speak about this too. you know during like teenage years and girls and stuff yeah I look back now like like why was I why was I scared like why didn't ask Marielle yeah and if I look back in 25 30 years I'll be like it's gonna be the same thing. That's why I focus so much on 20 30 year olds and even 40 year olds.

I would say because they have you know 13 year olds because a tick tock I have a very young crew. they don't have context but what you just said is everything to me like think about the people that didn't go to the college that they wanted to, didn't ask out the person that they want I mean I literally have active knowledge of friends who still are like depressed. they didn't ask somebody out 25 years ago like it just bothers them and like I'm like cool no time machines. You're actively doing that right now.

With this, you've been saying that you want to move out of New Jersey your whole life the are you doing in New Jersey I Love Jersey By the way, like don't clip that inappropriately but like like like I don't want to hear from friends who are like I want to move to a warmer weather place I want to move to a warmer weather place I want to move to warmer and then equally they're spending all their time saying I wish in high school I'm like you're doing it like cool. You're not going back to high school and being able to do that. but right now you've been saying for four years that you're gonna move to a warmer weather place. Not asking out Mary is the same thing as not moving to Florida or Texas or Arizona or no who's on your mind.

It's a big deal and that is why. Because they do know you can recall just you're 28. You can recall 12 years ago like a piece of cake and be like I wish I because people don't want rejection. Yeah, well, it's the fear, right? It's just I made fun of or like looking bad in front of your boys and like ha ha like it's funny I have a friend who's got an eighth grader who asked a girl out and it kind of went it botched, but not bad as a matter of fact.

I think they just went on a date so I'm super pumped for him and all his boys made fun of him and he just looked at him all and said like at least I had the boss to ask someone out and I was like that's it uh Nate who now runs my Foundation who's my partner in Empathy wines We played tennis a bunch both summers ago and I beat him in all six seven matches. We only played one set and in two of those matches he was up five to two and I came all the way back in 175. and for like the next two years I would Razz up like we would have so many who's my chief of staff so we would have all these meetings and it would have. There'd be no segue for me to bring it up but I just wanted to bring it up and finally and you know I'm I'm his guy like you know I'm the boss like I get why he wouldn't say anything and I finally grabbed him I was like hey the next time I say this I want you to look at me and say what's your handicap because he's a scratch golfer scratch and it was funny.

Between me telling you that story and telling you about my friend's son, that's how I think about eliminating the lack of the fear of the Judgment of your rejection. Most people are actually not scared of the girl saying no. They're scared that their boys are going to make fun of them for the girl saying no and like what I want the world to realize is like when your boys do that when your older brother does that, when your mom does that, you just call them on their like. If the kids of the world knew that when their mom or dad is on them that they could just take a step back Dodge that punch and go directly at something that their parents have done horribly, it would actually settle it.

It would make them take more risk. Like cool mom, you're on me. But what about when this happened for you? Like you have to. You don't have to punch back nasty, you just have to push back in context.

it would work for people because that's what makes me not scared that if and even three of you knew me my whole life and were like what about that time you did that like I don't understand, right? it's it's also why I don't think I'm special right? Like yeah. Okay, I'm good at making money in business I Genuinely to the core of my self being. Don't think that's a big deal. it means it's just something.

I Do Some people are just handsome. Some people can throw a baseball 100 miles an hour. Some people are just very gracious guidance like everyone's got stuff. everyone's got strengths and weaknesses and we just have to have that combo.

And for you like, the reason I'm going so hard at this subject matter over this time together is the fact that you're really like starting to do it I'm just trying to be like harder more. Yeah, that's yeah because I know I'm I'm self-aware enough to know about myself. That's that's all I need. It's just a big kick in the ass and and if you actually realize the big I'll tell you how you're about to go fast.

If you don't beat yourself up for the last 20, somebody who's self-aware what they'll do is be like it's almost like cool. You've now acknowledged that. never think or talk about it again, like don't spend any energy on it. Yeah, because a lot of people like like I love watching people make progress who struggle to make progress and whatever we're talking about, then decide when they've got a little taste of things are going well how quickly they'll let the old Behavior seep back in.

Oh, I'll try I'm looking at you for a reason. That's exactly what I see in you in such a fun way like that. I'm almost like you know knowing you're in a room I'm almost saying this for you like I see it and it's cool because it means you're halfway home. You did the new thing which established this better energy that's like foreign to begin with.

it's like whoa I might be changing, evolving but it's so cliche. to then like be like yeah, like really I'm this and like this was a good moment or for you like oh when I'm around Gary it's like that but it's like it's not. It's like you just have to realize this thing is actually dead. but it takes like a few minutes to go into that full place.

Like like I said like last week last week. first time. like you know, posting the video like putting my face out there Huge. it's it's something small for so many.

but for me brother, you want to hear something insane. It's not you wanna you wanna hear something funny? Jordy that's not posting. Their life is much bigger than people like me. That's why that's where the cup got it.

Notice how that combo just went. Hey, it seems like a small I know it's small for so many people, but I put my face on it. No, no, no, no, most people don't put their face on it. Kind of like the iceberg.

You know it's all that. That's exactly what it is because you can't see. it's. back to how I talk about happiness.

Everyone's like the world sucks I'm like no, no, the negative people are just loud right now. Until positive people get louder, you won't understand the complex. You won't understand the context, You won't understand the math I can't be such an enigma I need more people that are positive to Get Loud Like I Do Which Like, What about this? Good thing? What about this good thing? What about this opportunity? I Definitely understand all the unfortunately. you know the negativity and media are anywhere.

Just it's Amplified Someone spreads much faster and louder, right? But but but there's also so much more volume of it. like I'm pretty viral. Like there's plenty of room for people that sell love for virality. like there's a real path to it.

you know? Um, just got to be louder more people. And it's like those people are iconic and I'm not even like in that conversation. but there's there's millions of me out there. they just haven't.

They're so selfish in their happiness. My biggest problem is negativity wants to be viral. People want to drag people down to their unhappiness I believe when I analyze when I talk to myself about like what are you doing What I'm interested in is my generosity of the positivity I Notice all the people I've come across in life that are like me, just keep to themselves and enjoy their happiness. I'm willing to take the arrows and all the that comes along with putting yourself out there for the purpose of positivity.

and I think a lot more happy people have to take on that challenge. Yeah, that's um I've thought of it like that. That's that's it's. almost like you're doing like a noble because I I The reason I'm identified is because I can see myself a little bit like that.

You know, like I can see like I'm kind of like one of those people. You know that? Well, it's probably What attracted you to me, right? Like you can see it everything you're saying like you know it's why you're pushing yourself. Yeah, it's why you're pushing yourself. It's cool.

if that's your engine, then you're really gonna have a good time at this. Like for me: I Think a lot of people do what I do for a living, for the money and the fame. For me, it's for the satisfaction that I didn't live life selfishly that there's great joy for me I really enjoy it I've had to find my own balance in that because what it for me as someone who loves to give what I do is when I don't communicate with the people I'm giving love to well it leads to resentment I've had to be on a reverse journey of most people. Um, but a big opportunity.

That's a really Noble Mission it's You'll always have energy for it when you do it. For the money and the fame, you will run out of gas when you do it because you feel like you want to leave a positive deposit. You'll do it to the end. Yeah again, just going back to, you know, 80 90.

that's what that's what I've been thinking about lately is like you know what do I that seems to be the only you know that's something kind of to get kick me into gears like well, death, you're gonna die. So when you do that, you want to be able to look back and say like like what's what did you leave like the world with right? what what was your Lasting Impression did you just do nothing or hermit or negative or did you leave it you know with a bunch of positive right? positive, neutral or negative. Yeah yeah, right now I'm I'm neutral but you're not because you've already started the positive Journey which is huge and you know I was talking to Dustin earlier. like once.

you know like it once they get going like I can I can feel it like the momentum the the game plan. the strategy I mean the individual creatives. yeah those always need tweaking. but the strategy you know I just tell people just follow me what you say.

It's just so simple, just the volume. the volume volume is going to dominate right? Um I Do obsess a little bit over the quality, but I do too. But I think quality is subjective. Yeah, quality subjective.

What Dustin thinks is a quality BMX video is not something I even want to consider watching let alone beginning to judge if it is. If if you're not interested in buying things at garage sales and selling them on eBay Trash Talk is very low quality. Meanwhile, thousands of people have emailed me that it's the thing that got them to get clearing debt or creating a nice family vacation that is massive value. when the two themes of Trash Talk are I clear debt oh my God I Can't believe it by buying t-shirts and trinkets and mugs at garage sales or my family had a nicer vacation.

This both of those are profound. The top 15 things in life. But if you're not interested, like, and so like, the reason I always love volume is the numbers is not a debate. If you post 19 times a week versus four, you've posted 19 times versus four.

This concept of like, well, my four are quality and you're 19 aren't Gary that's insecurity and ego debating with me, not truth if that. like we don't have a universal quality guide like there's too much interest and Intrigue and too many nuances you know. And so somebody said to me that I know pretty well that's of my age he's like Gary I gotta really cut Social out. It's just like a complete waste for me and I'm like cool brother.

but I know you and what you were doing in that same time was just watching TV which is fine, not negative or or positive. you know one should. One could argue that you have way more control over your algorithm. For example, one thing I'm fascinated I have to make a piece of content about this: I've completely changed my algorithms I Just decided that I wanted to see a lot more business news because I'm making a lot more green screens right? and so like instead of spending time.

This is so funny. You know people like social media is a waste of time I Just made social media a time efficient machine for me. I and the team look for headlines for me to make content to talk about. uh when you know teams sharing stuff, what they think is good and a lot of times like it works and a lot of times it doesn't work like I'm like I'm not into that I want to talk about that? So I've put it on myself.

so it a lot of like a lot in the last 30 40 days, 60 days I'm like spending 10 15 minutes looking for headlines and like news or that's a lot of time in my life right now where I'm at and then I realize like wait a minute I'm just gonna follow like 50 accounts on Instagram and Tick Tock that I looked at their accounts and I'm like this is exactly the kind of imagery that I would do a headline against and let me just follow and like now it's coming to me I changed my entire algorithm. everyone's at the Algor and the other way. The algorithm just wants you to stay on. So if you show the algorithm that you want so like literally the number one hack for everyone in the world that claims they're unhappy with social is to go to the search bar on Tick Tock or Instagram and search the subject matters they think are bringing them value.

Follow 50 accounts like their content. The first time they show up and your whole Algo will change. In fact, when you keep dwelling on that negatives, they'll keep consuming. Of course it's just going to keep you worse.

like if you're gonna rub her neck to car crashes, you're gonna be upset if that's all you do. I I Think there's a profound like this goes back to self-accountability When I was growing up, it was all bashing TV Kids are watching too much TV Kids are watching too much. To me, kids are watching too much. To me, it's just this.

it's the way the. World Turns yeah it's been really interesting changing by Algo, it's been good. very efficient. I was a lot.

I saw you posted something too about uh sometimes I thought it was funny. sometimes you really tried to mess it up. You know you'll search like pickles or stuff like that. Yeah, just to like learn.

Yeah like it's kind of like I think social media is like a wild horse. You know either you're gonna figure out how to tame it and work for you or it's going to run wild to like be a bull in a china shop like it's bull fighting. Either you can tame it or you are gonna get pierced by it and I think that's on the person because every person can delete the app I hate this thing. Delete yeah discipline.

let's go inside. it's really interesting but like definitely for learning it's I'm really actually like feel like I'm more on top of right now because of the way my feet is going. In terms of I'm just seeing a lot of like like I'm by Nature I'm like a very good entrepreneur but like I'm not a macro or a micro Economist right? right? So like I'm not like like with what's going on with the recession or potential recession or whatever people want to call it the global economy like I'm enjoying the headlines I'm getting and then what I'm doing is you know social is very fast so I'll see a headline of like this is you know the US May default I'm like what is that like I'm not Edu like I know the title but then like because I saw it in the feed and because it was sat Sunday afternoon instead of like sitting down and reading a book you know it's amazing reading a book on a Sunday afternoon with like a nice cup of tea or glass of wine that seems like very classy. Being on your phone seems like right but like for me it was like boom to then Google to then like like and like I was getting it I'm taking I'm like in school but it's on my phone well I know it's it's people are judging the medium instead of what you're doing inside of it you know I started I was really like my you know if you want to look at the judge a page five success on views you know on Tick Tock of course I was really going well.

there was like some crypto stuff I was covering like uh you know kind of educated people what's going on broke my leg kind of felt you know the pain loss is so long and I fell out of like you know you got out of rhythm. the fear came back in and stuff like that why does break down the fear for me for five seconds fun I I think it's just just what people think yeah and was that a cultural thing? Was that a family thing like I think for example I'll give an example I'm incredibly private. people are confused by that when I say it but like I don't share my personal life I never have. but I think that's a family history thing because my family grew up in the Soviet Union and the only way you survived in the Soviet Union was by privacy.

Yeah, everyone was scared. Yeah, if somebody tattle-tailed on you and the government would put you in jail or worse. So for Generations my family's like you know you don't talk about anything so that's interesting. So you're saying that those that mindset you developed there that was more from how you were raised instead of I always thought that was just you were Sheltering your family like your personal stuff from the public you know or maybe a bit of both there I think it was naturally in me to be private and then I think I quickly understood that I had it like I remember vividly being a year into Wine Library TV and being like Oh like like a lot of people may know who I am one day like knowing that there was more and so I feel like I consciously knew that it would be a good thing to protect that but that wasn't SEC that was the number two thing.

The number one thing was my whole life I've been private. it's my natural state I don't want to. you know it's very funny. It's very empathetic by the way.

One of the reasons I'm private is that I don't want other people to have to worry about me. My biggest weakness up to this point in my life is the inability to be vulnerable I just don't want to put baggage on people have their own. It's also my greatest gift in a world-free home. most people are struggling with and really the things that I struggle with are like like it's a it's just shocking to me how little ability I have to dwell on my biggest concerns.

The thought that anything lasts a day is profound I was listening to a podcast with you and Stephen Bartlett yes he said it was very, very rare for it to make it to the next morning. So yeah, it's very I mean no. Oh, like business stuff is ever like, the things that go are like the people you care about and things of that nature but even those by standards of like knowing people. So that's another reason why I struggle with like you know, going there it's like uh, there's really not.

You know that really my mom is like really the person that I'm wired like but like it's your mom I don't like anything I'm worried about is she's gonna worry about it 10 times more. So that's like not. That's why therapy is so profoundly important for people like you know it, just. it's an outlet and like a lot of people use their friends, but then they're dragging their friends down.

You know, like if you're inherently like, if you're inherently struggling you, you need to get that poison out. But you know people get it right. Like if they're doing that with their best friend, they'll watch their relationship with their best friend deteriorate based on that. Because no human, no matter how empathetic they are, is really like going to be drawn to you know, rain and frowns 24 like right and so like I've been thinking and then I think a lot about the cost of therapy so that's been a huge one for me lately.

I'm like okay, cool Gary's on a podcast and be like go Do therapy Why? who the has like I don't know, you know 100 I don't know what the pricing is I'm sure you can I'm sure there's online things but like there's just like just think about like new alternatives to get it like. So one thing I've been very fascinated by back to Like Where You Went like I've been thinking a lot about this concept of I said it earlier. what are people going to do in 50 years that nobody does? Now one of my hot takes is one of the things humans are going to do is go into the woods and just like yell it out I'm not kidding I'm like really hot on this. you know, like weird Trend start like you know, like diets or like fads or like like you know everything from veganism to carnivore to uh CrossFit like I really think yelling and getting out is really good breathing the breathing thing is really interesting to me like one of my favorite things is on my text thing to just send a text and be like just take a deep deep breath and physically smile I am fascinated by what people sent me back and I know this to be true because I Do it.

I've been doing it more like I've been like trying to figure out that more and more for me. I'm very interested in it. kind of taking a pause in this. Well, just like it seemed like again, when you get Fs in science and you haven't done the homework like I haven't I'm intrigued by all the headlines and the conversation and popular culture about the values of breathing and like seemingly without any education on this I feel intuitive that it's right because I'm on the receiving end of it.

Um I just think a lot of people just they're just a little like again, it's how my brain works. it's how Trash Talk started. Hey, you should invest in companies like I did cool. Who's got twenty five thousand dollars to throw like you know like I was I was risk tolerant to do that.

it's not like I even had that much because at the time I had so little money but I was just like okay with like that risk most people aren't so led to like Okay, fine I'll teach you how to buy things for a dollar and sell for 13. and same with this. like I really want people to start doing more therapy? Oh A lot of people who listen can't for a million different reasons. financially taboo and their fam like they can't get through the taboo.

um okay. well maybe breathing is it. and like breathing is free. Simple.

It's simple. like like I'll do it right now and feel like I actually feel something like it's really fascinating to me. like I genuinely feel less pressure like I don't know. it really calms this I mean I know there's incredible science behind this truth, but like I just want that to be as real as working out I Believe more people wake up and do an hour workout a day than people take a deep breath with purpose to reset their anxiety level.

I believe that could be true I could be wrong, but that's my gut feeling on what's going on. and like that's the stuff that excites me. And I just think like in New York City so much stress like driving an hour to Jersey or Long Island or somewhere close, going into the woods and just like saying all the things you wish you could say to like people no different than therapy I have this weird feeling is going to become a thing because I think people want to be outside more this that like those are things whether that becomes a thing or not though that's how I like to create ideas. In terms of Technology people say old technology is bad I just really optimistic on technology.

like not not just obviously what it's doing stuff but you're talking about like artificial intelligence and all that Yeah, like yeah, that's a good one. That's right, everyone's like this is going to ruin everything I'm like that's what you said about tractors. That's what you said about the TV It's not the ability to improve everyone's lives so much so much. You can focus the amount of humans that can be able to focus on something more productive.

not to mention what nobody's talking about like with chat GPT right? This is so bad. I'm like it's teaching critical thinking. you have to still tell the machine it's like search engines like when I first started using search engines I was bad at it I was like it was like yeah it's like no assistance right? It was like wine and then later it's like you know where are the one you know Same with this like right now with all the AI people are like write a paper for me about this later it's gonna be like okay. write this paper about Lord of the Flies in the voice of a saint from the 1500s with a cynical point of view to Birdie's situation like it becomes critical thinking.

For me, as someone who's creative and likes to see different angles, it's going to be profound I knew simple editing but I I don't mind doing it but I don't like in the moment I feel like I think I'm thinking like oh, I could be spending this time doing you know, coming up with content or something right? I was talking about a few tools out there. you know, obviously people heard like China Tea and Dolly some of these images. but I think it's been really cool you know I think video like I'm really big I think video is like the most liked media uh comedian. For the big concern I have is with deep fake yeah I believe that video proof has been the judge and jury of our society for the last 70 years.

Yeah and yeah I'm really worried about that. Could you imagine the bad guys being able to be like that video is not true I saw one and like it took me I think it was an Elon uh yeah something. uh it took me like a few. It took me like probably 10 seconds at least to like like and I only could tell it wasn't really because the the face and the The Voice weren't lining up.

it was just the cut like what he was saying I was like I don't know, it didn't make sense but it's it's good. it's scary good. Oh no. I I Fully believe that in 46 months there'll be unlimited videos of me saying things that I'd never said to your point of video testimonials I would I would argue that it is the most challenging debate I have in my mind that almost everything up into this point in my life I've had like shocking Clarity and on like the whatever and it became true that this one is hard for me that I think there has to be a counter technology yeah I'm trying to think like like a badge like something like you know you have like I always sometimes simplify it may excuse me, it may lead to a shocking amount of live video I've been thinking a lot about like what if this goes so awry that nobody believes it am I gonna be like live all the Time be like like proving that I'm live and like you know it's wild but overall like optimistic on on technology and then its ability to improve our all of our lives I think I mean that that's just been proven like you don't want penicillin, you don't want x-ray machines you don't want like just like the conversation's so cliche, human fear and the best is one I I see older Generations My grandparents my grandparents had an iPad before I I even got one.

interesting and it's you know, not them in particular but you know you hear some some of the old Generations You know technology is bad yeah and have this when I was growing up we're all better for it. but you know what? the amount of times I see people on their phones just playing like older generation playing a game or on Facebook or something and it's it's You can tell like they're doing it for they're choosing to spend their time on on that like it's It's obviously giving them value, it's improving their life. Yeah so yeah. I Mean do you know how many people? how many 89 year olds are lonely in retirement homes that have gotten tremendous value of using the internet and social media? You know any families like would go and visit their great grandparent in the home once a year and now they're able to keep up with them through Face Time And social and texting I mean these are profound Technologies Yeah, profound.

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