Everybody's listening when you think the world doesn't get it and you're're right and everyone's wrong you're deep. I've seen how that goes right yeah. I'm very self aware the garyvee audio experience vayner nation. What is good uh.

My commitment to have interesting people that i want to chop it up with continues in 2022 in personnel. Like you know we're starting to kind of get there so we're in the office uh. Very creative dude here. I'm gonna let him introduce himself and and tell you a little about himself.

But i have a fun feeling that this is going to get into some uh. Some good stuff right before we started recording. He just said oh i'm getting old. But he but he looks great he looks super young and handsome and you're wrestling you wrestled uh is that what your year is or no every time.

I see that you know i tend to be weird about like getting into fights like i'm a. I would hope so no let me explain this there was a little bit of like brooklyn. Where are you guys brooklyn. You were just queens.

There was a little queen's love back here on the production teams they were given and it got very easy. Seth's accent. Even grew a little bit. Did.

You hear that dustin seth seth's queen's axe that count came out a little bit. When he figured out mike and him were from the same neighborhood. So i grew up very jersey 80s and like got into a lot of fights like that's how we did it it was different and for some reason. I still as a 46 year old man when i walk around earth especially under sports context where i know my emotions run wild kind of size up people of like am i willing to fight this person and when i see the ear.

I'm never interested in fighting smart man when i see the ear. I'm like that dude can do the that i have no shot in because i'm going to try to get one lucky punch in and when i throw it i'm going to be on the ground. Because you're going to shoot me and i'm dead and i don't have the strength. The course drink is getting better.

But not there and i'm finished so anyway. Why don't you tell the vayner nation. Who you are what you do give me a little like comic book number one like a little little four one origin story. We'll get into that yeah.

Yeah. But uh yeah name's brendan schaub. I'm a stand up comedian podcaster uh. I'm the owner creator of uh thick boy studios thick boy network.

Where all my shows are based under that and uh. My number one profession is stand up comedian tour all over i just released a special the gringo poppy on youtube on my thick boy channel. Which was shot by my team edited everything fully integrated right everything man. So how do you think about that as a young dude.

How old are you uh 38. So as a young dude. How do you think now yeah. But like you know maybe not 12.

But like you got you got 60 years on earth. So like 60 more mm hmm. You're being generous. Name.

Name. The biggest grandpa you know with cauliflowers and full sleeve tattoos. Well that's what i'm like that's what every grandpa is going to look like in 60 years at my size. I'm like i'm like a great dane dude.

No no no no i run hard man. Do you have the mindset of like i'm going to go in my 60s so go hard uh. I don't think i have that mindset. I think i'm realistic you know.

But i i do take care of myself modern medicine's insane bro. I'm hoping that everybody used to die from yeah. It's hard it's harder to die from they just know how to do now true the the lifespan is extensive gross every day and now they're getting into some weird ass like like i fee you know do you know what my biggest fear on earth is that that in like nine years. I'm gonna wake up and there's breaking news everywhere and they're like we figured it out and i'm in nine years.

I'll be 55. So we figured it out and if you're under 42. You can live forever. I'm gonna be so pissed so pissed so pissed.

I'm gonna be like that's super. Sad anyway so stand up comedy stand up comedy yep when did that hit the raid. You're 30 and 40. So like was there a stand up comedian or was there a moment or or did that come later like when did stand up comedy hit.

Yeah came later for me. I uh background is sports. Got great size yeah background sports. So played division one football university of colorado.

No oh real football. Yeah. That's a real program. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Big toy yeah we were good too. Yeah. When i was there.

We were good and then i had a cappuccino with the buffalo bills was how to had a shot in the nfl. Stop mm hmm good for you you df. 8 uh. I was free free agent.

Yeah yeah and so you went to camp went to camp what year was that that was that been 2006 talk to me about the pro. So i'm in the business. We wrap a bunch of players vaynersports as a matter of fact mike mccartney uh is one of our agents. His dad is the legendary coach of colorado mike mccarthy.

I know him very well so yeah. He's great he represent my best friend uh. Who's draft in the second round. Joe kloffenstein.

He's yeah. The best yeah so he just came over to vaynersports. He's great man. We've been chasing for five years you should so pumped.

He's the best the best i genuinely think he's the best agent football agree 100 and i think you get you obviously know him well so you know what we were looking for which is like i need a great agent. But i need a better human being because i can't around with that 100 a lot of those agents correct. It's across the board in in sports is the best so anyway. This is super fun.

I i just got to ask you like that jump you played d1 football. So that means you had a real high school career. Where'd you grow up aurora colorado. So real high school career yes to get to colorado you you get you get to the place.

Where even getting signed as a free agent post draft that is like a remarkable football player like i don't think people understand the scheme of eight billion people you know and it took me i would say you know i'm 38. I would say recently in the past three years it took me you know i've have kids now when they asked me about stuff. It took me a long time to have that perspective. Where man you did something a lot of people didn't do because to get there the goal is to be tom brady correct so by me not playing in an actual and i thought you failed i feel like a failure.

Yeah. That's insane and then i get it then i go from there to compete in mixed martial arts. I was in the ufc i was a top 10 heavyweight in the world and then i haven't talked about fighting you know again probably a long time. I'd always shut it down with people asking me about it because again my goals became velasquez.

You don't get to that level just being like i i just want to be in the top 10. That you can't settle for that so it's taken a lot of work a lot of growth. Where i can look at my career in football in the ufc and realized that man that was a that was a successful run you did something pretty cool yeah good for you yeah. That makes me happy because i think i think there's i always think that my level of ambition and competitiveness.

There's a good side to it and a bad side correct. And i think for whatever reason. The circumstances of dna and parenting and the luck of the draw. I got lucky like i want to be the greatest in the world comma whenever.

I don't achieve anything that i'm like fully there for there's a level of being content that i went at it that really gives me a little bit of balance and i'm very aware that not everyone that has the insanity of i played basketball last night. I played once because i broke my foot at the all star game three years ago. I've only played once half assed at the garden. The other day for a coinbase event.

This was the first time. I played basketball in like three and a half years four years last night for two hours you would have thought this pickup game my life depended on yeah i wanted to win so bad. It was like bleeding out of my we lost the first game you can't shut that off though it's just in your dna. I can't but but to what you've achieved like i'm glad that you're at that place at such a young age.

Because there are people who never like love themselves enough to go there correct. Yeah. And i think also like i wouldn't change anything like of course. Not if i would have got signed by the buffalo bills and had a five or six year career or in the ufc.

If i would have became champ or won my last fight which was eight years ago. I you know i wouldn't be where i'm at now correct. Which is to me my true calling. But i had to go through and my journey to stand up and be in a headline comic were you a class clown yes class clown.

I grew up in aurora colorado. Which was predominantly like a black neighborhood. So to fit in sports was the thing. And it was a double edged sword for me because i was really i wasn't big as a kid i was smaller.

But i was really athletic. So i knew i could make friends by showing them how good i was at football sure. But my my my heart and my passion was saturday night live i was obsessed with it was snl snl robin my mom would uh every saturday would watch snl and then she always had me watch. Robin williams so she loved comedy.

She loved it that's where i got my humor from my and she introduced me all that stuff so my heart wanted to be a comic. But i was really athletic. It took me pla some great places you also again based on what i know about your athletic career. I didn't know i didn't know you you got to go to camp.

Obviously. I know about the ufc stuff um. I mean that means in junior high or high school. You knew you had a shot.

Yeah. I mean you know but but again you know when you're a kid and you're i guess gifted at football. The idea is to be the next. John elway or the next.

Tony gonzalez. So my entire kind of identity at the time was surrounded to make it to the nfl and i thought if they just give me a shot man. I'll be the next tony gonzalez. And then when you get there you know i was young when you get there you don't have that perspective you when you my heart was broken.

I'm a sense of person. My heart was so broken when i got there and realized. It was such a business. It was so savage because i thought i'd get there you know it's willy wonka in the chocolate factory man.

I'm the lucky one to get the golden ticket. This will be great. It's not great man it is such a business. It's hard.

I was the i was not given a lot of opportunities which of course. But that's the business man. Yeah so when your dream is to get to the willy wonka's chocolate factory. And i get there and you realize.

It's this did you get me did you get any pre season. Snaps no no i got hurt i got hurt yeah. I heard my hamstring went back home. We had some other uh.

They released me we had some other offers to you know go to the dolphins or practice swat stuff. And then yeah. I've always been realistic with myself. And i i i think my best trait whatever.

It is is i i never just identify as that so a lot of athletes and you know this in the line. You're in a lot of athletes when they get done playing or if it ends for whatever reason god forbid. They don't know how to not identify as you know an nba player right uh nfl player ufc fighter. I never saw myself as just that ever ever ever ever do you think it's because you had this other passion.

Did you do you feel subconsciously or maybe consciously in the back of your mind you're like i'm going to get the comedy somehow. I think so i think so because also in the ufc. I lost a fight and i knew like my surroundings were a little bit toxic and i need to make a change and i grew up in venice beach as a kid. I grew up in venice beach and for whatever reason.

When i'd get to la. It just i don't know what it is it felt like home even though. I wasn't born there. But i grew up there there's something about it the culture just it just worked for you that's me that was your place.

It's the way i feel about new york. Yeah. When people are like you know now everyone's like you're gonna move to puerto rico or miami. The taxes and all this like are you out of your mind.

Yeah like i couldn't live anywhere in the world. But new york like i try to i can't i get it i get it calls me back good for you so you knew that so i when i moved to. La um. I was a coach on ultimate fighter at the time.

Okay yeah. That's right and so when i was getting ready to move um during the ultimate fighter. One of the coaches. Nate markhart.

Who's a teammate of mine brought in a comedian named brian callan. He brought in brian callan and brian's trying to make the kids laugh right they're you know it's a tough thing. I was on the ultimate fighter. I was a contestant.

There was a finalist on the ultimate fighter. So i know how hard it is for those kids so they brought in a comic to make the kids laugh yeah like raise morale yeah and uh. He's you know kind of i don't know roasting these guys or whatever. And then so i just kind of took this you know took the floor and started lighting.

Him up and having this fun. He's like dude. You're funny man. I was like oh thanks dude and he goes uh.

If you want to come to the show tonight come on i was like he doesn't know this i was like thank god man. I'd love to see the comedy. So i go see him and then he goes uh man. If you're ever in la hit me up man.

And he loves the ufc so he knew who i was so he. Goes if you're in. La hit me up it's funny say that i'm actually moving there next week. He was hit me up so i uh.

I didn't want to tell my family that in my head. I knew i was never coming back. But i told them i'm only going for a month. Just to see camps and just hang out on my dog and then i'll be back was never happening so i moved out there and then uh.

I stay at my uncle's place and i remember i drove out i had no friends. I had no idea what i was going to do and uh brian. How old were you this time man probably. 25.

Okay keep going yeah 20 maybe 25 24. I remember i get there. And you know i don't have anything man. I remember i didn't have a lot of money.

None of that stuff living at my uncle's house rent free felt like a loser coming off a two fight losing streak. You know so i just remember i got to la and i thought i made a terrible choice. I'm crying and i'm like man. I don't know anybody here.

What am. I going to do and i remember had brian's uh cell phone number and i texted him hey got to la. I don't know if you remember me man. But you want to meet for coffee tomorrow.

It was like the only glimpse of hope i had and he responded back way too fast way too eager. I was like yeah. And sent me. The address like oh jesus christ.

So i meet him. There yeah. Way too eager and so i meet him there and then him by the way. I'm also extremely eager like all the cadence of what's appropriate like if i love someone or i just want to like i don't give a i and i i think that's as as big and as famous and successful you are i think.

It's rare because there's this i'm the same way there's this weird dance that people do it's like an ego thing. I know but when i text you because i i've been a fan for a while when i text you um you text me right back. See. Because i figured i'd text you and then you know two days ago.

And by the way on the record for people listening who i haven't texted back like when you get 100 or 200. Like sometimes you just get unlucky. And you miss yeah. So thank god for this story purposes.

Because if i see it correct at the time. Otherwise you're moving at a million miles an hour. It's hard it's hard you know it's like you're just the way. It is anyway.

So yeah so uh me and bryan meet for coffee. And he's like man you're really funny interesting. And he at the this is 12 years ago. He goes uh man you should come on my podcast podcast right right.

He said that's like radio. But you record it and i'm like all right dude. So i go to his house out of his garage. And you know it's this little thing.

No video at the time and we do the podcast and we get done. He's like dude that's the best pockets we have this weird chemistry. I'm like i guess and he's like we should was that you protecting yourself the i guess yeah or did you see it uh no i i'm scared to like i mean after you talk to so many people you might be a nose. Again.

I think one of the things that um one of the talents. I have is i make friends really easily so you and i are we're going to be fred like i believe i know you don't have time. But we're going to be friends by the way friends. The number one thing i fight for is relationships.

Me too. I don't know i don't have a lot of time. Yeah. Because i try to fight for relationships in whatever form face time physical like you know like i i agree with you like that's what i fight for yeah.

Yeah. So you weren't sure you were like maybe. I'm just charismatic and he likes me maybe i don't have the skill set uh a little bit yeah for sure especially to run media. You know especially at the time big yeah in the background.

So he goes uh. We should do a podcast every week together once a week and at the time remember i'm i'm still in the ufc. I'm pursuing a world championship. And i don't have time for that man he goes.

No no i'm telling you once a week. It's an hour two seconds yeah and i was like uh and he goes we'll talk about fighting and and that's and i went hey listen i'll do it. But i don't want to talk about just fighting we can touch on it. But i want to talk you know i'm into fashion.

I'm a sneaker head. You know i like want to be myself. I just wanted to be like the lifestyle things like sure so we start doing that thing you know getting attraction. I know at the time.

Especially. There's like rogan. Marc maron. I remember corolla and then us.

You guys were really really firing the kids. So that thing just kind of took off and then remember i still compete in the ufc. But i realized there like i had a knack for it and then we started doing live firing the kid live podcast and uh brian would go uh. We're not gonna sit down and talk like we do it's gonna be a performance and i go yeah.

I say that makes sense man he goes and here's what we're gonna do i want you to start every show and you're really good at storytelling. I just want you to tell a story every show 10 minutes a story. I mean i can do that and then you know few shows go by we're doing big venues like you know my first time ever on stage. I'm at the vic theater in chicago like sold out and so those were my open mics.

But at the time the way he framed it just telling stories man you can tell stories and i'll never forget we're we're some big ass theater in seattle or something like that neptune and i go oh man. I'm trying to go over my story man it's like 10 minutes for the show. I'm trying to go over my story of story. I hear he goes.

Oh bubba you're doing stand up. I just want you to be scared. And it clicked like holy and then he does he didn't realize at the time. What that meant to me everything here we go dude.

That's it this is it on your home. This is it and then shortly after that i'll wrap it up shortly after that we do a a live fire in the kid at the comedy store. The best comedy store. Which is like the map yeah.

It's the it's like the garden. Yeah. I've always wanted to be there and oh. I don't even do stand up.

I'm like i got to do the comedy story. Yeah all my friends are there yeah. It's it you know it's a big feather in your cap. So we do a live friday kit there and it goes well and i do my 10 minutes at the top a few weeks ago.

By i get a call from the booker emily never forget this changed my life. She goes. Hey. See.

If you want to do a spot in the belly room on wednesday. You have six minutes and in my head and i respond back this how oblivious. I was i responded back to go oh let me check with brian. He might be out of town.

She goes no dude. We saw your set do it we want you to come here. And do it i was like oh. The comedy store.

So i go there and that was like my first technical set which was almost eight years ago. Yeah. It's awesome and it was off then then again you give me an inch you just give me an inch get that i'm gonna freaking run with it man back to if you could have gotten some snaps and pretty that which is probably why it probably burnt. Yeah.

Let's talk about that i want to give i've been very hot on this new thesis of giving out roses. While everyone's alive like explain that i just see people dying. And just like outpours and just like even like forget about famous people kobe prince. David bowie.

Just like in my life. Like you know i got into the liquor business. When i was a kid a lot of people were 40. When i was 14 and you know or 70 and just watched people that i grew up in in business.

I was so young you know pass because they were in their 50s when i met them and i was 20 and and i just something that just hit me. Which is like we tend to hold in the roses. How we feel genuinely feel yeah. And i think we society right.

Now is very good at pointing fingers and razzing each other and so i'm just you know i always think i'd love to talk about that eventually yeah so i'm very excited about just like giving out roses. So i have a fun. A couple fun questions for you on roses. You go to camp buffalo or maybe it happened in college.

Because that would make sense it depends on how much time you spent at camp. Before you got hurt. Um. Who was the best football player.

That you ever saw like if i said who's the best football player that i played with or against you saw that you saw with your own eyes from the field. Not in the crowd so that means maybe. It was in camp with the bills maybe. It was against the best team you played when you were at colorado.

Because it obviously takes it you know given that you played a colorado and went to camp you've seen professional football players play so if i just said best player you saw play uh. There's a two part question. There so played against that i saw in person uh. It would be one a one b.

It'd be uh adrian peterson. Which i didn't i didn't realize at the time. How he so we played oklahoma when in the big 12 championship when they had jason white heisman trophy winner and then adrian pierson heisman trophy winner yeah then went on to win the national championship we play him the game before yep and i i knew he was good obviously you know we saw film on him stuff like that when i saw him in person you know you're talking just felt different. He looked different moved different you're just like i get it he's such a tank and the speed and he's big and then can he's agile and you're just like.

Oh. My god you're like that is a star football player. Yeah. I was like that's that's a different dude yeah.

But even that that that didn't discourage me. Because i was like that's an all problem. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know i just need to be a goddamn team. Yeah. Yeah and then play uh one b. With someone who i played with and even that's one b1c would be uh.

Joe kloffenstein. Who was my roommate and best friend. He was drafted by the rams mccarthy was his uh agent and uh. He played i think seven years in the nfl and you're just a complete freak freak.

I mean you're talking again my best friend. The worst diet. You've ever seen eats dumping donuts. Every morning six six 260 shredded.

It's frustrating. Doesn't you know donuts. Yeah. Didn't give a just eats whatever shred.

It. And then ran up four five three in the 40 at 260 insane. The combine he takes his shirt off you're like jesus ufc mma who hurt you the most on a single punch again in the octagon roses like roses. Yeah.

Roses you know with a little roses punch you in the face roses. This is like this is really nice you know and you know this i mean you know it's better than i grew up a huge fight fan like boxing. Yeah. And so when you i mean.

I watched you i watched ufc number one when it was a you know because i was the right age. Yeah. I was like crazy and then uh vaynersports is also in the fight game we re we rep al jamaine sterling uh o'malley like we have a water michelle like we have a real practice stipe like we have a big practice. Yeah.

I'd love to talk to you about this. Yeah. We'll talk about that so so you know you know this like what's funny about punches is sometimes it's the equilibrium. It's like the back of it exactly you can get drilled here and be ok.

But the back of the head catches people even i just did to myself. I'm a little like you know like so it's not like it's just a weird sometimes it's just a weird thing so correct. And i think this might surprise people that are familiar with my career cause you know uh antonio nogueira big nog. I thought in brazil yep and uh you know he knocked me out yep.

But it didn't hurt i understand. But when i got hit by uh roy nelson he landed a right hand um. He threw a double jab and then a right hand. It hit me flushed that was the first time where it were inside that gun because you're drilling so high so high that's the first time.

I was like oh can't do that again jesus christ that hit me right in the chin yep and uh. You know first fight in the technically in the ufc because the ultimate fighter. They don't count fights yeah. So that was the finale.

Jon jones was the co maid of yeah. It's roy nelson yeah. Yeah and uh. I was when the fight.

He lands that. And i was like oh holy oh wow. This is real dude. You know the first time.

I've been hitting a fight. I know this is real and then uh he lands the one that uh ended up winning the fight and but that that one didn't hurt is behind you to your point yeah behind the air. But you lose the equity. Yeah.

But the the one that was flush with from roy nelson yeah. When you talk about roses. Which i which i absolutely love i would say that's one thing that i do well i tell especially close friends every time whether it's text when we leave i love you man. I do it too i love you i'm a big fan.

I love you man every. And it might be off for some people it's awkward as i love you man like what did you guys do i've done it to you guys like was it was it weird the first time first time it was right you don't yeah. It's so now like i've only in the last five. I i've been doing it for so long like my college friends are like because i like brought it up like they're like you did that in college.

I'm like i did like i've been doing it for so long me too. But then i just thought i was gay. But it was like you know it's like it's cool now but it's really nice it's yeah. But i think it it it's how you grew up you know i think there's a lot of it has to do with your parents being comfortable with that stuff so if you do it to someone that did not grow up with that love and affection that's where they're like geez take it easy dude talk to you i just met you two days ago.

I get it i love you man talk to me about stand up biggest like obviously. It's such an adrenaline thing. It's like so cool like i've i've thought about stand up even though the way. I give keynotes is very affected by eddie murphy and chris rock and especially richard pryor.

Who i was obsessed with and i've seen those and this is your roses is what you're so brilliant at and which what makes your favorite comic. So brilliant. Too is they can get from point a to b with the with cutting the fat so they get it's very clear and they can get there where most people can't so. If you look at a nate bargettes.

You look at bill burr christa stefano. They're great at getting to where they need to get in the shortest amount of time with the shorts amount of words. But they're very powerful and you my friend are damn good at that thank you talk to me about the biggest or if i said name a biggest laugh because it might be hard you've been like you know. But like that like the first time you work on like what's what i find fascinating is the work.

I'm so improv like when i think about rap. I'd be like oh. I'd be going off the top of the dome. Like you know like go into the studio bang.

It out and be out. Yeah. Other people really write yes. You know obviously the same thing.

With comics there's different styles. Yeah. Big time tell me a story. Because this would be this is a fun story for me something you really worked on and it destroyed uh does anything come to mind if i ask you that yeah.

It does because i think you know they any comics especially in new york. You know there's so many legends here they'll tell you you really don't find your voice on stage until you've been to 10 years. So around seven the only caveat with that is remember especially when those older heads started they were doing open mics and stuff for me to get on stage. So the amount of time.

I've spent on stage in seven years probably equal to most comedians. 12 to 14 years doing it because i was and i'm super blessed and i'm not taking this for granted. But because i had somewhat of a name yeah. I was able to get on stage more than these other comments so as far as biggest laugh.

I i i'll have some i'll have something written down in my head. Where i think it and i have to learn the hard way where i'll have it written out word for word. And i'd study that uh do in the mirror. Do something yeah you get out and be like jesus christ dude.

Yeah. And then once i loosen up and i'm just going over you got the b you got the core of it now if you if you look at my notes that are in my phone or on my paper. It's just bullet points and then i can riff from there. And i know the beats and stuff that makes sense so i've had times.

Where i've written it out i thought i was going to crush and i did it and then i'll i'll just kind of cap go you know right field with it and have fun with it. And it you know for me especially during now seven years once i start telling like my truth like being married to latina and having mexican kids and being a dad like once i start telling stand up that's actually relatable to the audience. I found for me like i was getting laughs where i didn't think it was going to be like being a dad like i didn't think. But that's what works of course.

When i have an idea and it hits me and i'm like i'm gonna try it out tonight. Whether it's at the comedy. Store i have to follow you know crystalia or mark. Maron or louis.

Ck. The other night at the hollywood improv and if you i try something new and i get this huge laugh dude. It's like there's has to be like a home run. It has to be like home run 100.

Yeah you're like oh i got some and i can elaborate on this what about acting. You think you have that gear in you are you interested in that gear or do you think that's like a different thing. Altogether. That you're like whatever yeah i would never disrespect and i was like oh i can act.

But i do think you know i i've. I've had a small role in a david ayers movie um. And i think did you like it. I saw.

The sausage was made yeah. It was i my takeaway from that i think again i can i think there's positives with everything you know i was basically an extra. I played a cartel guy they had me in a mascot. You know i look like a giant mexican cartel member.

And uh. It's just so serious and i'm not that serious of a person. And it was like hurry up and wait you just took it i hurried. I did i did a show called planet of the apps for apple like years ago.

With will i am. Jessica alba and gwyneth paltrow and i was the fourth judge. And like those are like big ass names and it was on apple and i had dreams that they were gonna buy netflix before they aired the show like i had all these concepts like four people watched it because they put on apple music. But we did the show and i just couldn't believe how slow it was yeah.

I'm too much of a psycho of speed do you think it's a uh control thing. I just think the tv has its way they know what they're trying to get like it's a it's a it's a platform thing yeah. I think you're right on that and i think for me. It was like uh a bit of an ego check.

Too. Which i didn't you know care about because shyla buffs on set and all these big actors and seeing them again. The positive was i i saw how good shyla. But i saw him die in the movie and they had to do it.

Eight times and that was the only thing they shot all day and my scene got cut at the time so i'm just watching him. I just i appreciate talent so much when i i would watch him. It's like oh. My god this guy is so talented and then david ayers.

Who did you know training day and uh end of watch and fury like such a monster and suicide squad. I and i told him this and we don't know each other well. But i told him this. I said i've had some great coaches in my life man as far as being able to manage like when it comes to football like being a head coach and be able to manage all these personalities and you know the offense coordinator defense coordinator and putting a game plan together.

I said you're the the best i've seen as far as communication being direct with guys and but also not being too harsh knowing exactly what works with this actor and that actor said. I've never seen anything like him man you're a head coach you're you're an offense coordinator. Man. It's cool yeah.

So that so that was cool. But to your point. Yeah. The hurry up and wait and it was so serious.

I think it was like a a comedy thing with my friends which we could do i think i'd be so much fun. I'd be interested in that. But um. Yeah.

You know i i think media. Is moving. Where everyone has their niche. And there's these lanes and you know if it depends you know.

But if you can control the narrative and control. What you want to put out well that's the market to me like i take pride in that i was listening carefully to like hey i put out a special and it's like i'm in full control that's very different than doing it on netflix or hulu or something of that nature i value that i'd rather have less distribution and more control and and i again i'm a fan here so one of the reasons. I said that is because i if anybody could relate to that and and and you know and be like oh. That's cool it would be you because i have a lot of awareness with no massive distribution channel.

It's been all done in the trenches. Yeah. Because i think the collective of the trenches linkedin and tick tock and youtube and podcast and twitter and instagram collectively if you do it the way i do it adds up to some of the biggest distribution plays. It's hard like i'm empathetic that i like have good improv uh chameleon contextual skills to play all those channels.

But it's cool for everybody listening right now like it's hard to play the game of distribution. Because you have to be picked. It gets diluted. It needs to work for the distributor and that loses a lot of soul correct.

And you know with comedy especially with with my background man being an athlete and having cauliflower ears and full sleeve tattoos and i you know i dress like a boy for like a better term. Yeah. I'm a sneaker head. You know i look ridiculous.

So you know being this big. The fact that we both have backwards hat and tv like i got excited. I put on backwards just so we look exactly like yeah. But um.

You know so for you know when i first started you know i'm a tough sell man yeah and i get that so my goal. It's the same you know that right interrupt that right there that little sentence. And i get that is the number one thing that i see for all the kids that are listening right now i want to rewind that part i know we don't edit. So you don't have to rewind it but literally the and i get that i so much has been like filled in for me from watching from afar listening to you in this podcast.

I believe that what you just said is the most important part of your success. I believe it's the most important part of my success. We have ambition. We have drive we want to make things happen.

But self awareness for you to say blah blah blah. But i get that for everybody's listening when you think the world doesn't get it and you're right and everyone's wrong you're in deep. I've seen how that goes right right yeah. I'm very self aware so you know when i'm doing spots at the comedy store.

I again. I think maybe because you know i'm very uh closely associated with joe rogan and joey diaz. And tom segura and crystal. The big dog so they would treat me a different way where really i shouldn't have been treated like that and again.

I'm very aware like i don't deserve this treatment. So you were like turtle in like entourage like the halo. Yeah. Dude.

I was the punter on the football team like i'm on the team. But i don't really deserve a ring. You know what i'm saying. I'm not going through the trenches like these guys getting you know.

But i'll get there the humility of that like again. I'm i'm sorry. But i really want to drill this for the people listening on the other side not getting a high on your own like i you know it's not obvious you have to kind of know me. But like no doubt.

It is humility that is making my whole engine go yes. I'm confident as i got bravado. I go at it right. But it is humility like genuinely knowing i don't mean yeah like i'm very aware like i see it and it's a superpower so for listen you may think you're special you got it that's awesome confidence is everything you match it up with real self awareness and humility.

Which leads that self awareness leads to patience like i get that i'm not everyone's cup of tea yet yeah that i'm gonna have to earn it they're gonna have to get to know me under the hood that's powerful for all these kids my main thing was when i got around all those comics when i was doing comedy and i knew it was gonna be a tough sell for a lot of people i my number one goal was i'm gonna earn the respect to my peers and the only way by doing that is they see me working my ass on the field. Yeah. So i would go up to the book. Or whether it was the improv or laugh factor.

The ice house or the comedy store and go hey all i'll be a door guy man. I'll be a door guy. And i'll i'll work. However you want me to work and i do not care.

I'll go on it and you knew they were going to say yes that they look at him like yeah. You're a door guy right i'll get smart. I'm going out tomorrow. I'll go on at midnight.

Just let me do the work let me earn my keep here. And if it's not a fit. If you think i'm bad at this let me know man. But i'm telling you give me an inch.

I'm gonna take a mile humility yeah tell me about this tour before we get out of here. Tell you about what you're charlotte. And all this stuff. You're about.

Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So uh. You know. It's a whole new hour. After the special uh.

The special is the gringo poppy on youtube thick boy youtube and uh the tour you know i'm in charlotte. This thursday friday saturday. Then i go to philly and then it's portland and i'm all over man. But a whole whole new house where can people find that in case.

They want to go check it out uh come on your social media. Uh. Where's the best place to find it uh youtube. What's the tour and when to win uh non stop.

I mean you're going yeah. Non stop you love it oh obsessed. But again it's a balance. Because you have kids so it's like i struggle with this balance.

Where i don't want to miss anything with my kids life because they're six and two and then also being the next can i say something like that might help you sure please. There was this young woman in the in singapore. After a talk. I gave.

I was with my sister on this trip. And just some of the people from the organizers. We went to this dinner and there was like 20 people at the table and this young maybe she was 25. She talked about her mother being a judge.

I think it was singapore it might have been malaysia and she talked about her mom working every minute and i was like really listening because obviously you know i also want to go at it and she said you know it was hard at times as a kid she goes. But my mother showed me how to live instead of told me how to live yes. I really think for a lot of the parents that are listening out. There.

There is no work life balance. There's just work life balance for you it all looks different. It's all individual. But i i do think that a lot of parents in their concern anxiety of like am.

I doing it right yes really miss that nuance that that young lady by example. Yeah. Like you know it's a really interesting insight that i've like took that nugget and then have watched for the last four five seven years. It really resonates and i think for people that are on fire trying to do it's gonna impact your kids more than you think now that doesn't mean miss every recital and game and never be there and like that i'm telling you i i can't you know i there's a and i was talking to burke christ.

I don't know if you know bert. But you know burke goes man. You know i've missed so much of my kids childhood and and i said what i struggle with bert is so this the longest ever been away from my kids on doing this press tour and i go to on tour. You know that's a full week seven days uh and i need to talk to somebody about it i i get physically ill.

If i don't see my kids. Yeah. Yeah. And you're lucky.

Compared to parents of different generations. Face. Time's crazy like it's a crazy revelation. Yeah for parents that are on the road.

There's a lot of things i get it good for you you know yourself i mean look. I'm incredibly close to my dad like love him to like oh like built his business. Because i loved him like wanted it for him and and i didn't even see my dad in the first 15 years of my life. Even.

Though he slept in the same roof as me every night. He just left before i woke up and got home after i went to sleep. He worked that much and so obviously i'm very affected by that i'm like there's just you know i know kids who despise their parents or struggle with them and they were with them every day. And they went to everything so intent and love trumps everything.

But that that one thing of like she showed me how to live really struck with me all right my team's hovering all over me. I got a ton of to do all right man. No dude. Nothing i appreciate i'm enjoying the of this yeah.

We'll chop up again appreciate it.